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    Hmmm..... I was just about to post, that I slayed the ARCH dragon bigtime yesterday afternoon and then this.


    No matter, I needed to renew my certs by the end of the month, anyway.

    I did not hear about the deadline extension...Interesting.



    So, I am thinking about CCIP maybe, enroute to the big one..........
    Hey congrats on the pass! I still plan on taking mine in a couple weeks. I just finished the INE videos, i still need to go back and watch a few over again. I should be fine with two weeks to go.

    Up next for me will be CCNA Security and then CCNP Security Secure. I will save the next three CCNP Security exams for next year. To much studying already hahaha

    One question, is their a reason you guys are going for CCIP instead of the newer CCNP SP?
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    Thanks! Really glad about it... Yea, I was figuring to do QoS and then the composite, if I go that route....

    Also, tempted with more Cisco security stuff too.....
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    One question, is their a reason you guys are going for CCIP instead of the newer CCNP SP?
    One of the big reasons is it's a great way to prepare for the CCIE R&S. While it's not required, it's also not a bad way to stay motivated as long as you don't burn out.

    I'll eventually get back into the security track, but work has asked me to stay focused on R&S consulting for now (along with other technologies of course).
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    Thanks alot! I think that you will be fine....Not sure yet about CCIP. That was one of my worries too. I was looking at the IP stuff and while QoS is pretty much the same, there are several areas in BGP and MPLS that are reasonably outdated......

    Nice thing is with CCIP, is if you have NP, you only need to take QoS and do the composite or MPLS and BGP. So, only need 2 or three exams. With NP SP, more is involved...The question is, how long until Cisco retires the CCIP?

    I will wait to get some feedback on this from others before jumping in....I also want to hit more security, too...
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    Yeah that is true its only a few exams away to complete. Is the MPLS and BGP really outdated on the CCIP exam? I guess it doesnt matter like you say if cisco retires them.

    CCNP SP is like 4 to 5 exams if you count the CCNA SP that is required. That is a long route.

    You guys are right that the current CCIP does help with the CCIE RS track. The QOS/BGP/MPLS are key topics from what the blueprint outlines.

    Well i will keep you guys updated when and IF I pass Have a happy easter!
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    Well, the theory in general regarding BGP and MPLS are still appropriate but quite a few of the commands, etc. have morphed over time....

    If there is no plan to retire the CCIP anytime soon, I may go ahead with it as the topics are highly relevant for CCIE. Since Cisco seems to be taking the approach now of CCNP, CCNP:S, etc., I would suspect at some point CCIP will go away....

    But who knows? Can't hurt to stuy the stuff as it is very relevant....
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    Passed today. took the exam first thing this morning. The test was not too bad. Passed by a wide margin. Not sure whats up next for me, thinking about possibly going QoS, and composite (BGP-MPLS). My BSCI only has a shelf life of 60 days at this point. Decisions, decisions.
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    Just passed my CCDP exam today, following up with the rest of the users that posted here. The material was in all honesty was not that hard to get a feel for but in all honesty it did take me a second read of the book and the CBT from ine.com to truly understand the topics. The quick reference guide i was able to get my hands on was also a big help in focusing on what you need to concentrate on.

    The ARCH exam was one of my favorite exams, the material truly teaches you the realities of how to go about designing the networks of today. I learned so much and recommend it to anyone who have just completed the CCNP. In fact i have no idea why cisco doesn't just include the ARCH exam in the CCNP module. I feel the ARCH exam is needed not only to really know how to use your routing and switching skills, but also how to implement it in real life situations. I feel more complete as an engineer having studied this material the past 5 to 6 months. Yeah it took me that long, i had a lot of work and distractions this year.

    Next is CCNA Security
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    Congrats!

    CCNA Security should be fairly easy for you.
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    Congrats and I agree with your sentiments about the value of the ARCH exam. It put together a lot of technologies and concepts and made the bigger picture really come to life. if you can overlook the occasional marketing hype.

    For me it really changes how I approach many situations......

    Chrisone, good luck on the NA:S. That should not be too big a hurdle, I suspect.....
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    Haha thanks guys, yeah the CCNA:S probably isnt as tough as the professional level certs but its a nagging hurdle none the less to get to CCNP Security
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    Haha thanks guys, yeah the CCNA:S probably isnt as tough as the professional level certs but its a nagging hurdle none the less to get to CCNP Security
    I hear ya on that one! uggh.
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    Haha thanks guys, yeah the CCNA:S probably isnt as tough as the professional level certs but its a nagging hurdle none the less to get to CCNP Security
    Yeah I need to quit being lazy and work on the CCNP:Security sometime but I'm about to start the CCIP track (QoS, BGP, then MPLS) as a precursor towards the CCIE.

    The CCNA:S does seem like it would he fun, though I am looking towards the updated professional sequence.
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    Well, don't feel too bad. I just realized/remembered that since my BSCI is just over three years old, I will now have to take ROUTE too if I want to go the CCIP route (PUN intended)

    Looks like I will definitely take the composite exam if I want to go for this now.
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    We're in the same boat! I'm actually working on ROUTE now since my BSCI was from May 2005. I'm finishing the last 2 chapters of the FLG and then starting on a series of labs and a brief OEG review before attempting the exam.

    After ROUTE I'll be doing TShoot, QoS, BGP, and then MPLS (in that order most likely). It's just another reminder never to let your credentials expire... but in the long run the review is good for me since I haven't had to do much BGP or many Prefix lists in a while. I should have the CCDP/CCNP/CCIP complete/renewed (CCIP would be new for me) by either December or early 2012, depending how side tracked I get with work.

    FWIW I still have my BCRAN, CIT, ISCW, ONT, etc. books from the previous CCNP exam attempts and I do refer back to them from time to time for things that we now take for granted... such as Token Ring and ISDN. You would be surprised how many clients still run Token Ring, Apple Talk, IPX, etc. due to legacy systems that are either too expensive or too complex to replace!

    Oh yes and almost forgot, I also get to add Cisco Storage technologies (MDS and Nexus) to the list of the 2012 learning activities. I'm seeing more and more requests for FCoE using Nexus 5000 to various other devices (completed 5 installs of Nexus 4k --> Nexus 5k this year) so I'm interested in learning more. These will of course take a back seat to the CCIE prep.
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    I guess that learning is the name of the game....Well, my NP was never expired(was just renewed) but my BSCI is just beyond the three year point by a few weeks, so I would need to take just ROUTE as qualifier for CCIP.

    Something seems wrong with that methodology. My NP is renewed and valid but you are not allowed to use that renewed credential to seek another certification. Seems somewhat illogical to me but I guess that those are the rules.

    I guess that it keeps us all current.
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    The rules can be a huge pain! But since I last took BSCI they removed IGRP, IS-IS, Multicasting and added OSPFv3, IPv6, and a but more path/routing control. I think its a step in the right direction for the most part but it would have been nice to keep IS-IS in there because there are places that use it (ironically enough).

    Likewise I actually have to reference the BCRAN for some of the ISDN DDR configs that a number of places use for backup connections.
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    I'm scheduled to take the ARCH exam on Sunday. I'm not completely confident but I'm attending a CEH class on Monday. I read the book. I think if it had animated demos or diagrams, it would definitely help get some of the concepts across since this is mostly theory based. I have the ARCH book, Quick reference guide, CBT Nuggets and had access to the INE videos. The INE videos are not very useful since it covers version 2.1. CBT Nuggets seem to be a recounting of the book ideas. It doesn't really expound or try to Ciorify the material to make it more engaging and interesting. Beware of the five sets of practice exam on the Cisco learning network since it's based on version 2.1. I was scratching my head at some of the questions on Nexus, VS something and a few others. The book is not a refresh or repeat of the Teare book, as it represents design methodologies versus the concept introduction and general design practices. This book takes it from the standpoint of you're the designer of a large enterprise with millions and millions of dollars in equipment. If you fudge a design, you cost your enterprise money. If you have a CCNP and taken a few of the other associate level tracks, most of the ideas and concepts are not foreign. The important thing is it ties everything together. I think this exam or topic is a little more difficult than routing/switching, security, voice, etc since it has zero labs or practical application to help reenforce the ideas. If I pass the exam, I'm going to take a little break, since I have a little princess on the way. But like others, I'm going to delve into CCIP. It's going to help provide a nice foundation for CCIE R&S.
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    First off, good luck with the exam. As you said this exam was definitely different than studying for Routing or Switching. However, as you mentioned it does tend to pull a lot of the pieces together.

    It was an interesting study and exam for me but others might a have different view. For me, it was definitely worth the time and effort to get the DP.

    Good luck, It sounds to me like you are well prepared to take on the exam.

    P.S. I agree with you about the CBT Nuggets. It seemed to me like all he was doing was reading the blueprint out loud. I got more by reading the Cisco materials than anything else.
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