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    My CCNA just expired this month. Instead of starting over I'm thinking of skipping ccnp and going straight to CCIE in the 2020 to 2021 time frame. I assume with a consistent study schedule I should be ready by that time. Thoughts?
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    akboyboy,

    No one really knows how good you are with your networking skills. Just looking at your certs, I am going to just stero-type you, and assume you have a current IT gig, been doing it for a couple years, and if you lost employment, you could find another gig.

    If all of the above are true, then this is where I would say go: First, if you aren't in, and are not actively work to obtaining, a full time network roll, it doesn't hurt to go straight for it. If you are trying to go for a full time networking role, any cert you can add to your resume helps.

    I don't know your personal aptitude, but 20 - 21, seems to far out. If you put in consistent time, I don't see why you couldn't do it closer to 18 months.

    Either way, it never hurts to aim as high as you can, and go for it. You will be a better engineer.

    Lastly, for anyone who posts that maybe you don't have enough experience, to get the cert. That's BS. We hired a CCIE with no experience. (We did do an extra round of hands on technical interview.) So, you can get a position even with slim, or no experience.

    HTH.

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    I don't understand why you wouldn't get your CCNP since it's going to be a subset of CCIE material, and all the certifications build upon each other...CCNA > CCNP > CCIE. Unless you are literally already in a networking position that doesn't care about anything but CCIE (guessing not since you let your CCNA expire), getting your CCNP could help you get into a networking role and make your studying more useful.

    On the point of getting a CCIE without experience...I don't think the part about having zero experience is the issue. Honestly getting a high level and expensive certification is beyond pointless if you aren't in a role actively using that knowledge. Would it make sense to have a CCIE and be a Microsoft system administrator? Darn near 100% of the time that would be pointless and so much time and money wasted. If you aren't in school, you literally need to get a networking job and start studying going CCNA > CCNP > CCIE (if you haven't been in networking). The fact that you let your CCNA expire but want to be in networking shows a lack of dedication...if you really wanted to be in networking instead of just having a CCIE, you would put forth the effort.

    It's going to look really strange to employers for a few reasons:
    1.) If you have a large unemployment gap just to study for your CCIE.
    2.) The fact you let your CCNA expire, and now are studying for your CCIE...they are going to be like...facepalm, really?!
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    Thanks for the replies. I have a network position now, I've been in the role for about two and a half years. I had just finished wgu in November and tried to rush through studying for the switch exam and didnt pass it. I figured I'd follow a real study plan to go through the ccnp material, then move on to the ccie material. I'm just torn between going through 4 test before trying to tackle IE material, or just taking my time and going straight to IE. Honestly I'm leaning towards going through the na > np > ie, but wanted some more opinions.
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    Employers want competent qualified people. If you follow through and do the IE, no one cares about NA/NP.

    As far as why not do the NA/NP, then do the iE. I went through the NA/NP curriculum for the DC track. I can say that it what was required to pass the NP tests hasn't really helped me on the IE so far. So the real question is does the curriculum really line up? Lastly, from my experience the NA/NP are a lot more trivia, and not so much the hands on piece. So, overall you will save time by just going to the CCIE.

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    I mean technically you can skip straight to the CCIE but the thing is many people try and few people pass. The people who are burnt out with multiple failed attempts give up and years go by and no cert so you don't want to be in a position 2 years from now that you had a hard time passing and don't even have a ccna.

    Can you work on getting small wins as you aspire to the big win? With that said can you work toward the ccie rs and make a spreadsheet of what overlaps with the ccna->ccnp. As you become competent in whatever overlaps schedule and take the exam. Follow that approach all the way through ccnp rs. With the things in the NA/NP blueprint that don't overlap read up/lab it up.
    In life you have to make your own opportunities. Don't let anyone stop you from your dreams to many negative people want you to fail because they can't succeed.
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