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| Member Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007
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 CCIE Book List I'm slowly collecting the suggested reading on Cisco's Bok list...but I'd like to ask the CCIE's on this board what other resources did you use apart from the book list. I'm only at 25% from that list some are hard to find and expensive(FR solutions guide comes to mind..) Can we get something started ? | ||
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| Lord of Gondolin Registered Member  Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GB
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Certifications: IE written 2001/7/9. CCIE lab preparation. Number of hours lab practice = 868 Number of hours reading = 432 |
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There are whitepapers on the blueprint. Find these on the Cisco Website, print them, bind them and read all of them. The books are your best friend, spend hundreds of hours reading them patiently, as many as you can without speed reading. Odom's book is very good to bring things together but the others on the list should be read also. After immense reading, try out the Odom, Netmaster and Boson tests. Then take a punt at the real deal. Postscript. If money is tight try Amazon for used books. You can pick up Caslow there for a few dollars! __________________ Married with children. Projected CCIE completion end of 2010 (Everest) - 3.5 years all in to get there! Done - Over 120 practice labs and written. 850+ hours config practice. 400+ hours reading. To do - INE Vol 1 v 5.0 technology labs - INE Vol 2 v 5.0 multiprotocol labs - INE Vol 4 Troubleshooting labs - INE OEQ practice - INE Mock exams Not related but thanks for the inspiration and generally..thanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYoERWmZdZ8 | |||
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| Member Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007
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Certifications: CCNA, Linux+, Security+, Citrix CCA4 |
here's my books list and wish list ==Current Book List== BGP4: Inter-Domain Routing in the Internet (The Addison-Wesley Networking Basics Series) Practical BGP (Russ White) Top-Down Network Design Routing TCP/IP, Volume I (CCIE Professional Development) Routing TCP/IP, Volume II (CCIE Professional Development) IP Routing Fundamentals Cisco Cookbook The TCP/IP Guide: A Comprehensive, Illustrated Internet Protocols Reference TCP/IP Illustrated, Volume 1: The Protocols (Addison-Wesley Professional Computing Series) ==Wish List== Frame Relay Solutions Guide OSPF and IS-IS: Choosing an IGP for Large-Scale Networks by Jeff Doyle The Complete IS-IS Routing Protocol by Hannes Gredler OSPF Complete Implementation (paperback) OSPF: Anatomy of an Internet Routing Protocol Router Security Strategies: Securing IP Network Traffic Planes Cisco LAN Switching Fundamentals Cisco OSPF Command and Configuration Handbook (paperback) OSPF Network Design Solutions BGP Design and Implementation Cisco BGP-4 Command and Configuration Handbook Troubleshooting IP Routing Protocols (CCIE Professional Development Series) Network Security Principles and Practices (CCIE Professional Development) CCIE Routing and Switching Practice Labs CCIE Routing and Switching Exam Certification Guide Cisco LAN Switching (CCIE Professional Development series) Internet Routing Architectures Cisco QOS Exam Certification Guide (IP Telephony Self-Study) MPLS and VPN Architectures MPLS and VPN Architectures, Volume II | ||
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| BOFH - Network Division Registered Member  Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: The Plane of Suck
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Interesting, I haven't checked the booklist in a couple months, but they have links to the electronic versions of the Solie books up for free, too bad they're not downloadable. But it's an alternative to paying the overpriced used book sellers on amazon __________________ --- Tearline v1.0 * Origin: narco.noctum.net 'So what if you can see the dark inside of me...' (127:0/0.1) "We think the packets are being devoured by Nidhoggr, the Net Serpent" | ||
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| Network Geek Registered Member  Join Date: May 2009 Location: Port Washington, WI, USA
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Don't waste your money on all those books. Buy the written study guide. Buy practice exams from Boson. Buy all the CCIE exams they have, then buy the MPLS, BGP, and OSPF exams. Using the practice questions in the study guide, and the study guide itself, and the Boson exams, go through and figure out what it is you need to focus on. For me, I ended up buying Williamson's multicast book and Doyle's books. This all I needed. Virtually everything else I was able to use materials on Cisco's website. Tech notes and configuration guides and command references. For instance, virtually everything you need to know about QoS can be learned from the website. Don't waste your money on the books. Don't forget also here on this very forum (and forums elsewhere) you can ask questions about things you are unclear on. [edit] Safari is an excellent idea as previously noted. Sometimes you only need a page or two out of a book.. take notes.. and you'll never look at the book again... Derick CCIE #15672 | ||
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| Network Geek Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Port Washington, WI, USA
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I used internetworkexpert's program. I bought the end-to-end program in May 2005. It came with audio classes on an ipod, class-on-demand, live classes, the workbooks w/solution guides/ and 4 mock labs. Well I used all of the materials. I watched the on-demand classses, and followed each segment with the (roughly) corresponding audio class. I did the first 10 labs in the first workbook. Then I took the live classes. Because of everything I did prior to the live class, I went into it with a lot of questions. After the live class, I finished up the remainder of the practice labs. I did all of them in 8-12 hour blocks. For particularly difficult topic areas, I would rent equipment and just fiddle with a feature or set of features to see how they work interact. Multicast helper-maps come to mind. Redistribution... at the time also I spent a lot of time on ISDN (which is gone now). Then I did 2 of the 4 mock-labs... and went and took the actual lab, and passed on the first try. My recommendation is that if you go with a program like this (IPExpert has one, NLI I think has one, NMC has one)... then do it in a similar fashion. Try structure some self-learning BEFORE you take the live classes. For both the written AND the lab: I used freemind to build a mind-map of my notes. It is a great tool to build a sort of knowledge base of the things you need to remember. You can draw relationships between notes and embed images and links. Highly recommended by me. For plain old rote memorization, at the time I used CueCard. However, now there is aso Mnemosyne. Derick CCIE #15672 PS - I am a terrible speller, I'm not even going to go back and fix this botched post. I'm going to get a cup of coffee. | ||
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| Lord of Gondolin Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: GB
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Certifications: IE written 2001/7/9. CCIE lab preparation. Number of hours lab practice = 868 Number of hours reading = 432 |
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__________________ Married with children. Projected CCIE completion end of 2010 (Everest) - 3.5 years all in to get there! Done - Over 120 practice labs and written. 850+ hours config practice. 400+ hours reading. To do - INE Vol 1 v 5.0 technology labs - INE Vol 2 v 5.0 multiprotocol labs - INE Vol 4 Troubleshooting labs - INE OEQ practice - INE Mock exams Not related but thanks for the inspiration and generally..thanks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYoERWmZdZ8 | |||
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| Member Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2008
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Certifications: CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP |
mnemosyne looks great! They also have someone's flashcard deck for the CCIE Written (CCIE Routing and Switching Written Exam Flash Cards | The Mnemosyne Project) which looks pretty good. Just wondering on the MindMap for the CCIE, FYI..I'm very new to mind mapping...just wondering what format you used as your mindmap? I have mapped out the exam topics, but I get stumped on what to do after that...any tips? liquid __________________ blog.insomniacnetwork.com | ||
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| Member Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007
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Certifications: CCNA, Linux+, Security+, Citrix CCA4 |
i second that! i'd like to try the mind mapping...sound interesting ....just looked at the mind mapping app....i'd say its an awesome app check out the quick demo/tutorial http://www.artemissoftware.biz/video...mind-demo1.mov Last edited by qp81; 06-23-2009 at 04:01 AM. Reason: awesomeness | ||
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| Member Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007
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wow! this mind map is truly amazing! I Just started playing with it, for a good 5 min, and its gotten pretty big already....I'm loving this! Thanks Derick!! | ||
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| Network Geek Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Port Washington, WI, USA
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I started a different thread for the discussion of mind-maps... | ||
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| Coffee anyone? Registered Member  Join Date: Jun 2003
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qp, i cant imagine if each of your dream book costs about 50$  wowhow about using somekind of web-board as an online notes? you know, read - summarize, and write down on the web-board? in case something is come up - i like to use the search function  a phpbb on my laptop  __________________ the More I know, that is more and More I dont know. | ||
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| Senior Member Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: North Georgia
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It's also useful for keeping code snippets, and notes for those tasks that I don't perform often enough to have 100% memorized. I think ccie15672's software would be more useful for making conceptual items click though. | |||
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| Coffee anyone? Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2003
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its fun navigating around local web-board just like browsing TE __________________ the More I know, that is more and More I dont know. | |||
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| Senior Member Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008
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hmm interesting....i'll have to lok at this avenue as well isn't learning fun __________________ CCNA, CCA-PS4, Linux+, Security+ In Progress: 642-901: Completed(12/16/09) 642-812: in progress 642-845: in progress 642-825: Pending CCIE R/S Written: Pending | ||
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| Member Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: somewhere hot
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Certifications: CCIE R&S, CCNP,CCIP,CCDP and JNCIS-M |
Lot's of these books are also redundant in information. eg TCP/IP vol2 covers everything about BGP as covered in Internet Routing Architecture, minus the history of the internet. Best to go compare the chapters of each book online and sorting out what you need and what you dont need, and what's just cool to read. | ||
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| Cisco Addict Registered Member  Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cyberspace (Near the Core)
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nullrouter, congrats on the recent R&S lab pass. Please let us know your experience with it when you catch your breath! Enjoy the celebration!  and mostly  __________________ I usually hang out on 224.0.0.10 (FF02::A) and 224.0.0.5 (FF02::5) when I'm in a non-proprietary mood. | ||
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| Member Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: somewhere hot
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Good to have it done, I can finally start focusing on network things I find a little more enjoyable, rather than a strict lab blueprint list  .Anyone serious about learning shouldn't have a problem with the OEQs, but you still may get a curve ball thrown in batch. So my final advice would be... - You should already be working in the industry (if you're not just get CCXA or CCXP and stick with that until you're working for real) - Study - Learn what's on the blueprints, if you think you don't need to learn something on it, you will get asked about it on lab day! - Study - Lab technology up to learn the functionality and caveats. - Know the DocCD, so you can find things when you need. - Don't stick to learning a workbook vendors lab only, that's a trap for when you get different topologies. I didn't have this problem. - If you're been studying for years on end, take a stab at the lab. It's not as evil as you'd think. | |||
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