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    So I have been putting it off for a while now, but my last bunch of text books arrived in the mail last night so i have no excuse to put it off any longer.... Officially began studing for my CCIE last night.

    My only goal at the moment is to have the written exam passed by the time my CCNP expires in mid 2012. A long way away i know but i don't get to much spare time.

    So, diving straight into routing, BGP first as its on the cards at work at the moment. Will use the office exam cert guide, along with TCP/IP routing 2, and also the BSCI book which has some great info.

    Last night was a bit of a review on basic routing, principals, Classless vs Classfull, VLSM, CIDR, summerization etc etc. I'll be using dynamips fairly heavily for the routing stuff, as its just nice and easy and i can run around 10 routers on my PC.

    So thats it for now, I'm at work and should probably stop laughing so hard at this youtube clip 'the day the routers died'

    YouTube - The Day The Routers Died...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rakem View Post
    So I have been putting it off for a while now, but my last bunch of text books arrived in the mail last night so i have no excuse to put it off any longer.... Officially began studing for my CCIE last night.

    My only goal at the moment is to have the written exam passed by the time my CCNP expires in mid 2012. A long way away i know but i don't get to much spare time.

    So, diving straight into routing, BGP first as its on the cards at work at the moment. Will use the office exam cert guide, along with TCP/IP routing 2, and also the BSCI book which has some great info.

    Last night was a bit of a review on basic routing, principals, Classless vs Classfull, VLSM, CIDR, summerization etc etc. I'll be using dynamips fairly heavily for the routing stuff, as its just nice and easy and i can run around 10 routers on my PC.

    So thats it for now, I'm at work and should probably stop laughing so hard at this youtube clip 'the day the routers died'

    YouTube - The Day The Routers Died...
    Good luck. Keep this blog updated and log your hours in the signature. I find it keeps me motivated and its nice to have people drop by!
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    Good luck. Keep this blog updated and log your hours in the signature. I find it keeps me motivated and its nice to have people drop by!
    Will do, i like stats so it will probably keep me motivated as well.
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    Nice to have some more company, welcome to the officers mess as Turgon would say
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    Thanks guys.... looking forward to getting back into it!
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    If you are studying BGP definitely read Internet Routing Architectures. The book is full of useful info and not just tech specs. Its a lot better read than any of those resources you have listed.
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    Good luck! Let's hope you can pull this thing off....

    It always gives me energy to hear people studying the CCIE...I know I am going to have to face that battle one day myself....


    Right now I live vicariously through everyone else.......
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    There is quite a collection of us all with the CCIE in mind nowadays
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    I'm right there with you. But I think I'm going to do QoS first since I have a project at work that calls for it. Just waiting for my Odom book.

    Good luck, I hear this thing is tad hard...
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    Quote Originally Posted by notgoing2fail View Post
    Good luck! Let's hope you can pull this thing off....

    It always gives me energy to hear people studying the CCIE...I know I am going to have to face that battle one day myself....


    Right now I live vicariously through everyone else.......
    I second this. Watching you guys pursue such events is amazing and inspiring even. I can only hope that I will someday be able to join the 'officers mess' =)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rakem View Post

    So thats it for now, I'm at work and should probably stop laughing so hard at this youtube clip 'the day the routers died'

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    Just wanted to wish you good luck man, and thank your for the link. Made my f'in day.
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    good luck bro, and don't give up. been studying for the lab since last Sept and will be taking the lab in a few months. The journey is long, but the outcome is definitely worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rakem View Post
    Will do, i like stats so it will probably keep me motivated as well.
    Good man. Start a counter in the signature. Knuckle down at the weekends on the studies. It's where the CCIE is won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Turgon View Post
    Good man. Start a counter in the signature. Knuckle down at the weekends on the studies. It's where the CCIE is won.
    Well its been a pretty bad start, i've come down with one hell of a cold so not doing to much study this weekend.

    One thing that I have discovered that I thought was pretty cool, is a public available route-server where you can see the entire internet BGP table, run some show commands, trace routes etc. Telnet to route-server.ip.att.net
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    Quote Originally Posted by rakem View Post
    Well its been a pretty bad start, i've come down with one hell of a cold so not doing to much study this weekend.

    One thing that I have discovered that I thought was pretty cool, is a public available route-server where you can see the entire internet BGP table, run some show commands, trace routes etc. Telnet to route-server.ip.att.net
    Sorry to hear that. Good to see the study count begin!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rakem View Post
    Well its been a pretty bad start, i've come down with one hell of a cold so not doing to much study this weekend.

    One thing that I have discovered that I thought was pretty cool, is a public available route-server where you can see the entire internet BGP table, run some show commands, trace routes etc. Telnet to route-server.ip.att.net
    Yeah, there is a bunch of looking glass servers available on the interwebs. Check out Traceroute.org

    It's pretty cool stuff...

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    Still feeling like **** but did a few hours tonight.

    Went over the BGP basics. Message types and BGP states mainly.

    I Didn't know that you could actually set the BGP keepalives to 0, so they will never be sent.... can't think of any reason why anyone would actually want it configure it that way.

    Turned on GNS3 and just set up a simple two router lab so I could so some debugs and watch the routers go through their different states. Did some incorrect configs so i could see the different types of errors and notifications.

    Example Below - Message type 1 was sent (Open Message) which identifies the router and specifies the BGP settings (timers, AS number, etc)

    Message type 3 received (notification) which sent the router into the Active state because I configured the neighbour statement with the wrong AS number

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    *Jun 28 22:02:43.391: BGP: 10.1.1.2 send message type 1, length (incl. header) 45
    *Jun 28 22:02:43.479: BGP: 10.1.1.2 rcv message type 3, length (excl. header) 4
    *Jun 28 22:02:43.479: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: received from neighbor 10.1.1.2 2/2 (peer in wrong AS) 2 bytes FDE8
    I think this is a good way to study.... read the theory, take notes, the hammer it home with some labs.
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    BGP path attributes tonight.

    Well known mandatory
    - Next Hop - self explanatory
    - AS Path - list of AS to a destination
    - Origin - IGP, EGP, incomplete - redistribution normally

    Well know discretionary
    - Local Pref - influence outbound routes
    - Atomic Aggregate - alerts downstream routers about potential loss of path info because of aggregation

    Optional Transitive
    - Community - used for destination routes that share common properties and policies
    - Aggregrator - provides info as to where aggregation was performed.

    Optional Nontransitive
    - MED - influence inbound routes
    - Originator_ID - loop prevention (more reading to come on this)
    - Cluster_List - loop prevention (more reading to come on this)

    AS_Set & AS_Sequence (Loop avoidance when aggregate routes are sent, well AS_Set anyway)

    Administrative Weight (Cisco Specific used for route preference - local router only)
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    Quote Originally Posted by rakem View Post
    I think this is a good way to study.... read the theory, take notes, the hammer it home with some labs.
    This has been my proven, tried and tested method since December 2004

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    I would suggest to follow turgon's advise of keeping this blog updated and log your hours in your signature. It will be eye opening when you get done. But best of luck, consistency and determination will get you that number.
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    Played around with a simple 3 router lab in GNS3. Mucked around with aggregating routes and using the as-set command.

    Also did a lot of reading on the BGP decision making process, the CCIE cert guide has a really good section on every step, with config examples (Page 460 - 476).

    My next step is to lab these examples up and manipulate BGP to use different decision making steps. Should be fun.

    Lunch time now, then off to see some houses (trying to buy a new house at the moment)
    Hopefully will get time for the above lab exercises later today, if not tomorrow.
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    got a decent sized lab going in GNS3.... established basic BGP peering between all routers, starting to play around with PAs.

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    Did a bunch of reading on managing large scale BGP implementations.....

    Peer groups
    Route Reflectors
    Communities
    Confederations.

    Looking forward to labing up confederations.

    My study so far has been 90% from TCP/IP Volume 2, Chapter 2 'Introduction to BGP'
    Once finished with that, chapter 3 looks good for a lot of practical exercises to help compound the theory.

    The CCIE cert guide will be very heavily used during the practical exercises as well.
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    Did some practice BGP questions tonight..... got lots wrong! lol
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    hmmm never seen this one before...

    On one of our BGP routers at work, i was just having a bit of a snoop around, and typed the following

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    Primary_RTR#sh bgp 
    
    % NOTE: This command is deprecated. Please use 'show bgp ipv6 unicast'
    Primary_RTR#
    Primary_RTR#
    whats the deal there?

    Firstly the router is not even running IPV6 so not sure why its telling me to use an ipv6 command... But to show the normal output of the 'sh bgp' command i had to do:

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    Primary_RTR#sh bgp ipv4 unicast summary 
    BGP router identifier 10.8.0.8, local AS number 65500
    BGP table version is 742, main routing table version 742
    89 network entries using 10413 bytes of memory
    179 path entries using 9308 bytes of memory
    12/6 BGP path/bestpath attribute entries using 1488 bytes of memory
    2 BGP AS-PATH entries using 48 bytes of memory
    0 BGP route-map cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
    0 BGP filter-list cache entries using 0 bytes of memory
    BGP using 21257 total bytes of memory
    BGP activity 182/93 prefixes, 716/537 paths, scan interval 60 secs
    
    Neighbor        V    AS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down  State/PfxRcd
    10.8.2.14    4 65500  150450  150480      742    0    0 14w6d          89
    83.xx.xx.xxx   4  5466       0       0        0    0    0 never    Idle
    83.xx.xx.xxx   4  5466 1152573 1800485      742    0    0 2w1d           85
    % NOTE: This command is deprecated. Please use 'show bgp ipv6 unicast'
    CoLo_Primary_RTR#
    CoLo_Primary_RTR#
    Router is a 2811 running 12.3(14)T5.... anyone seen this before?
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