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    is this a good deal on a 2610xm router?
    You can get 'em for around $75 (Buy-it-Now or Buy-it-Now/Make Offer) with free shipping from some good sellers.

    The nice thing about your link (and vendor) is the amount of information they provide -- but you definitely want to do a little more homework and use the "Make Offer" option if you want to go with them.
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    I have a question for everyone. I am looking for SDM download but on the Cisco site http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps5318/ the connecting link doesn’t display the actual download. I even searched the downloads page with no luck. Is there any other way to obtain the program?
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    Personally, I like to have at least 2 serial ports in every router.
    Why have 2 serial ports though? When you can use the console port? I'm quite new to Cisco products though, so don't bash me too bad if I'm being silly.
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    Why have 2 serial ports though? When you can use the console port? I'm quite new to Cisco products though, so don't bash me too bad if I'm being silly.

    The console port is for configuring the device, no network traffic is going through it.
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    I have a question for everyone. I am looking for SDM download but on the Cisco site http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/secursw/ps5318/ the connecting link doesn’t display the actual download. I even searched the downloads page with no luck. Is there any other way to obtain the program?
    Look on the right side of the page. Under the screenshot, then under the Ordering box, there's a Support box, and within that box theres a link labeled "Download Software"
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    Cisco CCNA/CCNP Lab Workbook I bought this lab book. It's pretty good, has dozens of step-by-step labs.
    I have purchased this book which seems very good. But I was wondering if anyone know which labs in there are better suited for CCENT. These all seems to move toward CCNA. Thanks in advance for any responses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan2308 View Post
    Look on the right side of the page. Under the screenshot, then under the Ordering box, there's a Support box, and within that box theres a link labeled "Download Software"
    I was able to find V2.5 of SDM as a download through google searches. I think they may gave removed the software from the Cisco site as it is not listed when you click on the download software link.
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    I was able to find V2.5 of SDM as a download through google searches. I think they may gave removed the software from the Cisco site as it is not listed when you click on the download software link.
    I saw something on another forum suggesting that Cisco is no longer supporting SDM and is migrating to CCP (Cisco Configuration Professional)!

    This can be good news in some sense as it is rumored that they no longer test SDM for CCNA.

    The bad news is ... like SDM, CCP is only supported on certain platforms, ie, 28**. CCP is not supported on the 17**, 26**, 26**XM, or the 2900/3500 series switches.

    Given the recent news, looks like I will be doing a hardware upgrade (at least in part) after I re-test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hermeszdata View Post
    I saw something on another forum suggesting that Cisco is no longer supporting SDM and is migrating to CCP (Cisco Configuration Professional)!

    This can be good news in some sense as it is rumored that they no longer test SDM for CCNA.

    The bad news is ... like SDM, CCP is only supported on certain platforms, ie, 28**. CCP is not supported on the 17**, 26**, 26**XM, or the 2900/3500 series switches.

    Given the recent news, looks like I will be doing a hardware upgrade (at least in part) after I re-test.
    I won't comment on that rumor, but instead ask if the rumor mill has anything to say in regards to SDM and the CCNA Security?

    It also doesn't appear that CCP has a simulator like SDM does, so hopefully it works well in GNS3.
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    [QUOTE=alan2308;489920]I won't comment on that rumor, QUOTE]

    As the shepherds of old would say ...

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    Sorry to bring this thread back up, I just didn't want to start another one and this one is very good. I took the advice of this thread and have compiled a list of stuff below. Just would like an opinion if the price seems acceptable. These are buy it now prices as I'm not huge into squatting and bidding all that much.

    3 2950 switches
    1 NM-4A/s
    3 2610 routers (32MB-8MB)
    1 1721 router (64/32)
    2 wic-2A/s
    1 network rack (12 devices)

    It comes out to about $477. Is that about in the right range or should I duke it out for deals? Again sorry for bringing this back up.

    Forgot to mention that includes shipping.
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    Based on a quick head estimate, that price sounds pretty good for that gear. Have you considered skipping the 2600's and looking at the 2600XM's? They'll be more useful beyond the CCNA. And the 2600's that you're looking at are short on memory and flash which may cause you some headache down the line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan2308 View Post
    Based on a quick head estimate, that price sounds pretty good for that gear. Have you considered skipping the 2600's and looking at the 2600XM's? They'll be more useful beyond the CCNA. And the 2600's that you're looking at are short on memory and flash which may cause you some headache down the line.
    Blah I was afraid of that. I tried to skimp on the lower memory because I saw some advertised with the 12.3 at that amount and figured it would be sufficient. I looked a little at the 2600xm's but the average price seems to be about $50-$100 more a piece which at 3 would be a noticible difference in price. I can deal with upgrading memory no problem if I had to. I'm open to any adjustments to the list you may think would be beneficial. I could always drop the rack and maybe put $100 more into my budget, $600 is about the ceiling though (not including cables). I usually put my tax returns into a yearly upgrade or rebuild but my priorities have changed and I'd like to put half into a kit for school and half towards the principal on my student loans.

    I don't wannt to drag this thread out if you guys aren't open to it but I'm definitly open to suggestions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycoronado View Post
    Blah I was afraid of that. I tried to skimp on the lower memory because I saw some advertised with the 12.3 at that amount and figured it would be sufficient. I looked a little at the 2600xm's but the average price seems to be about $50-$100 more a piece which at 3 would be a noticible difference in price.
    I completely understand about being on a budget, I have a few boat anchors laying around because it was all I could afford at the time. The gear you're looking at should be sufficient for the CCNA, but beyond that, the 2600's will be lacking, especially with the low memory.

    And there's always GNS3 if you run into a topic or two that you can't do on the real gear.

    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycoronado View Post
    I don't wannt to drag this thread out if you guys aren't open to it but I'm definitly open to suggestions.
    That's what we're here for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan2308 View Post
    I completely understand about being on a budget, I have a few boat anchors laying around because it was all I could afford at the time. The gear you're looking at should be sufficient for the CCNA, but beyond that, the 2600's will be lacking, especially with the low memory.

    And there's always GNS3 if you run into a topic or two that you can't do on the real gear.



    That's what we're here for.

    Ok wait a second, are these suitable? Cisco 2600XM Multiservice Platform Router, Model 2610XM

    They advertise two WAN ports, could I drop the wics if that is the case?

    Edit: Ok they advertise 2 WAN slots...I'm assuming that's for the additions?
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    Ok wait a second, are these suitable? Cisco 2600XM Multiservice Platform Router, Model 2610XM

    They advertise two WAN ports, could I drop the wics if that is the case?

    Edit: Ok they advertise 2 WAN slots...I'm assuming that's for the additions?
    Your right. I think you beat me to ordering the two 2600XM that CandK had left. LOL I think I can wait a bait just getting my feet wet with this CCENT stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeBoi View Post
    Your right. I think you beat me to ordering the two 2600XM that CandK had left. LOL I think I can wait a bait just getting my feet wet with this CCENT stuff.
    There's a 2620xm on ebay with 96D/32F for $69 with free shipping

    CISCO2620XM CISCO 2620XM Router 1 FE 96/32MB AC PS - eBay (item 170591962246 end time Jan-24-11 11:30:51 PST)

    Alternatively,

    2610xm 128D/32F [Buy it Now][$78-79]


    CISCO 2610XM Router 128D/32F 2610 XM CISCO2610XM Qty - eBay (item 390278537428 end time Feb-06-11 07:51:45 PST)

    CISCO2610XM Cisco 2610 XM Router 1 FE 128/32MB CCNA AC - eBay (item 170592320898 end time Jan-28-11 07:56:40 PST)


    2620xm 128D/48F [Buy it Now][$77+$15]
    Cisco 2620XM Router Call Manager Express CME 4.1 SDM - eBay (item 120671126700 end time Jan-22-11 11:47:10 PST)


    2650xm 128D/48F [Buy it Now][$81+$15]
    Cisco 2650XM Router Call Manager Express CME 4.1 SDM - eBay (item 120671127169 end time Jan-22-11 11:48:12 PST)

    128MB ram sticks for those XMs cost around $8-10
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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeBoi View Post
    Your right. I think you beat me to ordering the two 2600XM that CandK had left. LOL I think I can wait a bait just getting my feet wet with this CCENT stuff.
    I didn't beat you to anything, I'm just looking right now. You can grab em' if you need them, you are farther than me anyways and could probably use them more

    Thanks for those links impz, sometimes I guess it just takes a fresh pair of eyes...or some patience on my part

    Edit: I put in an offer on three 2620xm's, we'll see what happens.

    Ok, I got the best offer on the routers (2620xm's, 128d/32f) paid like $80 a piece for them with shipping. Got everythig else except the switches which I'm waiting for a reply on my best offer. Went about $20 over budget but was able to get the rack at least. Thanks for the extra help guys, although nobody will read this because I don't wanna be annoying and bump the thread again.
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    Ok, so I'm being annoying and bringing this back up. I've scoured around trying to decipher the amount of cabling to go with but I'm stuck I guess. I think I'm good on the straight through and crossover cables but it's the other cabling that is confusing me now. Should I just wait for the equipmment to arrive and try and figure it out?
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    Cool, thanks seekrit.
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    Okay looks like everything here is settled. I waited bc I didn't want to thread jack. But total noob question here..

    I would like to buy just one piece of cisco hardware, enough to aid me thru my CCENT studies. Should I buy a switch or router? What model?

    If one piece of hardware would be worthless, then also let me know, so I should get one router and one switch?

    I don't want anything overkill and don't want to spend alot..

    I heard I could get by with just using sims like Packet Tracer. I also just started my Cisco Netacad class, but we would have to be in groups and share the hardware. Plus it doesnt seem like we will be doing anything hardcore with the actual hardware during the first part of the course.
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    I would guess, if you're going to look at what single piece of hardware would serve the best, I'd say a 2950 switch. Simply because you can get by with using dynamips/gns3 to emulate your routers.

    I wouldn't suggest it though. A 2nd 2950 switch lets you see STP in action (barely) which is covered in ICND2. A 3rd lets you really see how it works. (Of course if you're going beyond CCNA and have the budget, waiting to get a 3550 for your 3rd is another option).

    On the router side, assuming you don't want to simulate/emulate everything, a 2610 or 2 is pretty cheap. Don't forget the WICs though. I've heard the T1's(?) are cheap, but I just got a pair of WIC-1T's for my WAN interfaces. If you're going beyond CCNA, at least one should be a 2610XM series.

    My current setup is 3 2950's, 2 2610's and a 2610XM. I still use GNS3 most of the time though, as it's just easier/more convenient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickeycoronado View Post
    Sorry to bring this thread back up, I just didn't want to start another one and this one is very good. I took the advice of this thread and have compiled a list of stuff below. Just would like an opinion if the price seems acceptable. These are buy it now prices as I'm not huge into squatting and bidding all that much.

    3 2950 switches
    1 NM-4A/s
    3 2610 routers (32MB-8MB)
    1 1721 router (64/32)
    2 wic-2A/s
    1 network rack (12 devices)

    It comes out to about $477. Is that about in the right range or should I duke it out for deals? Again sorry for bringing this back up.

    Forgot to mention that includes shipping.
    Looking into building a home lab for CCENT preparation as well. Is it okay to plug those devices in 1 surge suppressor? Im afraid that I might cause a short in the house, lol.

    Based on reading and suggestions from this forum, I plan on obtaining the following devices:

    3 - 2950
    2 - 2610 64/16
    1 - 2610XM
    1 - NM-4A/S
    1 - WIC-2A/S
    1 - Cisco DB60 to V.35 Cable, CAB-V35MT
    1 - Cisco Smart Serial to V.35 Cable, CAB-SS-V35MT

    Those cables were suggested during check-out, not sure if I need it. The last cisco items I configured (with the help of a cut-sheet) was on a TDC/ICAP where everything was included in the box. It looks like putting this home lab together will absolutely help me fully understand networking.

    Thank you, all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 518 View Post
    Looking into building a home lab for CCENT preparation as well. Is it okay to plug those devices in 1 surge suppressor? Im afraid that I might cause a short in the house, lol.

    Based on reading and suggestions from this forum, I plan on obtaining the following devices:

    3 - 2950
    2 - 2610 64/16
    1 - 2610XM
    1 - NM-4A/S
    1 - WIC-2A/S
    1 - Cisco DB60 to V.35 Cable, CAB-V35MT
    1 - Cisco Smart Serial to V.35 Cable, CAB-SS-V35MT

    Those cables were suggested during check-out, not sure if I need it. The last cisco items I configured (with the help of a cut-sheet) was on a TDC/ICAP where everything was included in the box. It looks like putting this home lab together will absolutely help me fully understand networking.

    Thank you, all.

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    It shouldn't be a problem, I have two 6 plug strips, both fully populated and plugged into the same circuit.

    First, you'll want a second WIC-2T (or a pair of WIC-1T's). The NM-4AS in one router, and a WIC-2T in each of the others. Each router should have serial ports. For cables, if you're using the WIC-2T's, you'll want a couple of these and one of these. Shop around though, you'll find better deals elsewhere. Monoprice has some cheap, but they don't carry everything.

    If you go with the WIC-1T's, the cabling can be simpler, you can use these for everything. The WIC-2T unfortunately has different plugs than the NM-4AS, so you have to have a few different cables on hand.
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