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    532 material... nothing newer. I found the CBT Nuggets for the 532, and though they were for IPS5, most of the transfers to my lab and IPS6 were painless. I also just finished reading the IPS Exam Certification Guide by Early Carter (damn expensive, but work covered it), which was fantastic.

    I also snagged the IPS Quick Reference... the usual $18 for the digital version. I love it. An awesome 50 pages of material.

    Other than that, it's been back and forth to the exam blueprint. I had to take Mike's advice early on with the CCSP and get used to grabbing each topic in the blueprint and then scouring cisco and google to make sure I have it covered.

    I think I'm just about there. Prolly tackle it after another week or so of review and practice.

    Good luck to you as well, JSK.
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    Notice that the asterix is at the end of "CCNA + SND". That option as a pre-req expires Nov/11. The CCNA:S will then be the only acceptable pre-req.
    Doh! cheers Mike I missed that. I still cannot see the new exams in the links provided. If the new exams are valid it looks like i should hold fire on the ASA fundamentals course as I'm not sure if I will be able to use this as part of the new track. Work are buying me two courses the switch course from CCNP and ASA fundamentals from CCSP so maybe I should start the CCNP track first?
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    Pearsons website has been updated with 3 of the new exams. Firewall, VPN and Secure. The new IPS exam is not on there yet.
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    Pearsons website has been updated with 3 of the new exams. Firewall, VPN and Secure. The new IPS exam is not on there yet.

    Do you have a link?
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    Do you have a link?
    Unfortunately, I can't link directly to the page. Basically, if you log into their site and go to schedule online you will see the list of exam codes. 642-617, 642-637 and 642-647 are now available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JSK View Post
    Unfortunately, I can't link directly to the page. Basically, if you log into their site and go to schedule online you will see the list of exam codes. 642-617, 642-637 and 642-647 are now available.
    They still aren't on ciscos page, interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjthedj45 View Post
    Doh! cheers Mike I missed that. I still cannot see the new exams in the links provided. If the new exams are valid it looks like i should hold fire on the ASA fundamentals course as I'm not sure if I will be able to use this as part of the new track. Work are buying me two courses the switch course from CCNP and ASA fundamentals from CCSP so maybe I should start the CCNP track first?
    Based on Cisco's usual process, the old exams will stay valid for quite some time. People who began their SP track with the existing exams are always given enough time to complete the track.

    The new exams, I would guess, are the next evolution of the existing exams, where:
    SECURE = SNRS
    IPS = IPS
    FIREWALL = ASA Fundamentals
    VPN = ASA Advanced

    If that's right, then if you managed to get the ASA:F before the new track was official, it would remain a valid component of the new track for another year or two.

    I've never found it advantageous to wait for the tracks to change... Cisco typically ensures that no one's efforts are in vain.
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    Man, just when I'm getting around to getting back in the track, I have SNAF booked for Nov 19th.
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    Man, just when I'm getting around to getting back in the track, I have SNAF booked for Nov 19th.
    Read mikearama's post, you'll have plenty of options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ConstantlyLearning View Post
    Read mikearama's post, you'll have plenty of options.
    Yeah, I know...plus it's not like they're going to retire stuff inmediately or that exams you have taken are not going to be valid anymore. Heck, my SND is still valid for another year.

    I just hope Cisco Press keeps up with the curricula changes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizano View Post
    I just hope Cisco Press keeps up with the curricula changes.
    After seeing how there was a lack of study materials for the CCSP I am not holding my breath for the new CCNP Security exams.
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    After seeing how there was a lack of study materials for the CCSP I am not holding my breath for the new CCNP Security exams.
    I hear that.

    It was so weird going down the SP track. The NP track has resources galore... the SP is the scrawny, malnourished, poor cousin by comparison. It was so "different" to have to go to the blueprint and then "manually" have to search for reading material on the topic... not that cisco.com and google are difficult to navigate, but you get spoiled doing the NP.

    I expect to pass (confident, yet anxious) the IPS exam this week and close out the SP... then on to the VP, where I hope the resources are back to plentiful.
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    I really don´t like at all that they are taking the CCSP name away. I really hate that.

    CCSP just sounded better that CCNP Security sounds...

    Man, I knew changes were coming, but what a mess, my eyes hurt from navigating that web page.
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    The more I read the more I dislike. I was expecting changes similiar to the ones that occured with the CCSP a couple of year back when they retired SND and upgraded the rest of the exams.
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    Ditto.

    My beef is that the NP stands for Network Professional. Now someone can get their CCNP: Security first, still not know anything about routing, eigrp, spanning-tree, etc, etc, etc, etc... yet still get to put CCNP on their resume. BS.

    I'm leaving CCSP on my resume... assuming I get past the IPS exam on Thursday.
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    So a current CCSP will not be grandfathered into a CCNP Security? I assume that means everyone has to retake all 4 new exams? If so that is lame.
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    So a current CCSP will not be grandfathered into a CCNP Security? I assume that means everyone has to retake all 4 new exams? If so that is lame.
    No no, of course that's not the case. CCSP's will no doubt instantly transform into NP's in Security.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikearama View Post
    No no, of course that's not the case. CCSP's will no doubt instantly transform into NP's in Security.
    It´s my understanding that none of the CCSP exams will count towards CCNP Security. That´s my dissapointment.
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    It´s my understanding that none of the CCSP exams will count towards CCNP Security. That´s my dissapointment.
    Based on what?

    CCSP Exam Certification Tool - Career Certifications & Paths - Cisco Systems

    "CCSP exams will remain available until April 2011 and individuals can still obtain a CCSP certification until October 2011. CCSP certifications will no longer be issued after October 2011. Cisco strongly encourages individuals to take the newer, relevant CCNP Security exams instead of the older CCSP exams."

    "Encourages" bro (which is always the case)... but not mandatory.
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    I don't know how to interpret it. The CCVP changes clearly show that you can mix and match old/new exams and still get the CCNP Voice certification. However the security changes show separate paths for the CCSP and CCNP Security certifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikearama View Post
    Based on what?

    CCSP Exam Certification Tool - Career Certifications & Paths - Cisco Systems

    "CCSP exams will remain available until April 2011 and individuals can still obtain a CCSP certification until October 2011. CCSP certifications will no longer be issued after October 2011. Cisco strongly encourages individuals to take the newer, relevant CCNP Security exams instead of the older CCSP exams."

    "Encourages" bro (which is always the case)... but not mandatory.
    Right, you can get your CCSP, and it's valid for 3 years, but after that, you can't recertify o become CCNP Sec by passing any 642 exam, you have to take the 4 CCNP Security exams. That's what I get because none of the CCSP exams are listed in the CCNP Security track.
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    Here is some good news :

    Self-Study Resources from Cisco Press
    • Secure Quick Reference (eBook)—Coming January 2011
    • Secure Official Certification Guide
      • Rough Cut Edition—Coming November 2010 (Rough Cuts provide online access to pre-publication manuscript)
      • Print and eBook Edition—Coming February 2011
    • Firewall Quick Reference (eBook)—Coming January 2011
    • Firewall Official Certification Guide
      • Rough Cut Edition—Coming November 2010 (Rough Cuts provide online access to pre-publication manuscript)
      • Print and eBook Edition—Coming March 2011
    • VPN Quick Reference (eBook)—Coming January 2011
    • VPN Official Certification Guide
      • Rough Cut Edition—Coming November 2010 (Rough Cuts provide online access to pre-publication manuscript)
      • Print and eBook Editions—Coming March 2011
    • IPS Quick Reference (eBook)—Coming January 2011
    • IPS Official Certification Guide
      • Rough Cut Edition—Coming October 2010
      • Print and eBook—Coming February 2011
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    I kept on reading to see if I can find something, hoping maybe I was wrong, but it seems to that this is the case. They are not just renaming CCSP to CCNP Security, they are dropping CCSP. Being a CCSP does not grant you a CCNP Security, whereas with Voice, having a CCVP does make you a CCNP Voice.

    I just don't see the point in that. This sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lizano View Post
    I kept on reading to see if I can find something, hoping maybe I was wrong, but it seems to that this is the case. They are not just renaming CCSP to CCNP Security, they are dropping CCSP. Being a CCSP does not grant you a CCNP Security, whereas with Voice, having a CCVP does make you a CCNP Voice.

    I just don't see the point in that. This sucks.
    Ah, now I see what you mean. Yep, that sucks.
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