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    #51
    Sigh... I passed my VPN exam a few weeks ago, so I only got 2 more exams to go.. (IPS & Secure)

    2 exams in 3 months...

    The race is on... I suppose...

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    Looks like the specialist certs are getting retired to
    https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/co...tions/security
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    Just want wish everyone that has to rush their studies the best of luck.
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    #53
    This looks like the future numbering scheme, based on what I've seen so far. Do they have this (the exam numbering scheme) published anywhere?

    100 - Freshman/Entry
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    Here's the link to all active exams: Current Exam List - IT Certification and Career Paths - Cisco Systems

    EDIT: Just today, a coworker was asking about taking exams for CCNP:Security, in order to renew his CCNA:Security. I advised him to take SECURE. I will have to revisit that advice tomorrow, LOL.
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    #54
    Not really, the SECURE and any other exam if taken before the expiration date will count towards the NP Security until December 31st 2014. So, he can still take the SECURE
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    #55
    Maybe I read it wrong but it says you only have until April 21, 2014 (not Dec. 31) to take the test?
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    #56
    I think you are correct f0rgiv3n.

    The December 31 date is for the legacy exams

    " * Legacy exams will only be given credit and will be valid for achieving CCNP Security certification through December 31, 2014"
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    #57
    OHHH Now I get it... it made no sense at first. If you take and pass the exams before April 14, they still can be counted towards your CCNP Security in combination with the remaining NEW exams you will need to take to finish it off. Crazy.
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    Correct. I don't think i was very clear but glad you caught on!
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    #59
    It takes Iron Port and an ASA to form a viable firewall in today's networks with Cisco. The ASA is great with VPNs, ACLs, NATS, PATS, etc. It is not a complete solution. Iron Port is an awesome product btw and should be part of the Security track.

    I didn't say the ASA was completely useless. It's just not as good as Check Point and Palo Alto from a firewall perspective IMO. Layer 7 visibility mentioned above is one. Another example would be true hot HA. It takes contexts in the ASA world to provide true HA. Contexts are great but are limiting when it comes to features. I think having a dedicated management appliance (could be virtual) for the ASA platform would be awesome too to centrally manage devices and/clusters. Easy VPN on the other hand has a great load balancing HA feature. It's not a bad product, just needs improvement.

    I never plan to go down the Security track anyway so the change in exams doesn't mean anything for me. Good luck to those pursuing!
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    Woah... You can't compare a stateful firewalls with a application firewalls!!! Though I do Love PAN (manage these things all day) if its not one thing I hate the most is the CLI is sooo dumb (PAN)!. I don't know what you mean by "TRUE" HA if PAN highly recommends not to use ACTIVE/ACTIVE! .

    Personally I'd prefer an ASA over a PAN (personal preference) though If i was recommending it to a client/customer definitely PAN cause even a 5yr old can manage a PAN .
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    I'll defend the ASA in regards to having full control in a familiar CLI. That said, with tons and tons of config day to day management and reference isn't ideal...and I am mostly a non GUI always CLI guy.

    I'm not Security focused so I won't pretend to be an expert. Just my opinion...and I'll continue to use ASAs in environments for certain functions. The tie in with CUCM with SSL VPN from IP phones is another fantastic feature. For a small office environment there isn't a better product than 5505 as well.
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    I agree I just hate running into situations where I can't find palo alto documentations on certain things. If i do is very broad. The PAN makes a great Edge Firewall due to its visibility into the application. But anyways I'd like to trade for your CCNP Voice I want that cert so bad!
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    I know this is a CCNP Security thread, but I am curious as to how this will affect CCNA Security. Everything in CCNA:S advances out to CCNP:S, and each of the topic is explained in greater detail in each of the CCNP:S exam. It seems like if I pass CCNA:S now, there will be a large learning gap in CCNP:S.

    For example, ISE and BYOD is mentioned in CCNA:S, but would not prepare anybody for 300-208 SISAS exam.
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    #64
    It seems like if I pass CCNA:S now, there will be a large learning gap in CCNP:S.
    Ccna:S like all CCNAs are just the peak of the iceberg! CCNAs should only build,admin and troubleshoot networks to the size of ~300Endpoints.....
    CCNPs >300 <1000 ......
    So small networks dont need a ISE or so on, this means the ccna is just the theory of the bigger cake with the practical need for small networks! And to be honest so much Change I cant see in the Change!
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    That makes sense. I guess I'll take a further look into the syllabus offered for these certifications.
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    Anyone have any idea what hardware will be suggested for CCNP Sec candidates?
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    New path, new exams and new technology. This is showing us that we have to keep on updating our profile in this IT world, otherwise we will be off track.
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    I think its a good thing
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    Does anyone know, or have a rough idea when the new books will come out? I'm half way there. I've completed my Firewall v2 and VPN v2. I have IPS which I'm starting now and SECURE.

    I don't think I can bang out at least IPS or SECURE before the deadline, not enough time. I just sat VPN yesterday.
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    This update doesn't seem well planned [in terms of preparation.] If I remember correctly, Wendell's OCG was released shortly after the new CCNA: R&S went live and well before the October 2013 deadline. Yet, there are still no books to be found for the new CCNP: Security exams and from what I've read on the forums over at Cisco there may not be any until Summer 2014 [or 2015 depending on how you interpret "Next Summer"] well after the the existing exams are retired. It almost seems like Cisco just decided one day to update the exams without giving Cisco Press some advance notice so they could start working on new books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theodoxa View Post
    This update doesn't seem well planned [in terms of preparation.] If I remember correctly, Wendell's OCG was released shortly after the new CCNA: R&S went live and well before the October 2013 deadline. Yet, there are still no books to be found for the new CCNP: Security exams and from what I've read on the forums over at Cisco there may not be any until Summer 2014 [or 2015 depending on how you interpret "Next Summer"] well after the the existing exams are retired. It almost seems like Cisco just decided one day to update the exams without giving Cisco Press some advance notice so they could start working on new books.
    Yep, it does seem like it was poorly planned. They should have the new books out by now. But now we have to wait until "Next Summer" for them? Really Cisco? Great going! NOT!!!!
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    I hate Cisco for this and SP books.
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    #73
    I planned on renewing my Cisco certs with the old CCNP Security. But looks like I'll just redo Route.

    I thought it was cool that you could use GNS3, buy a cheap 5505 and buy the books to prepare for the exams. Now, you might need a X ASA with modules, rack rental and new books (the books are the least problematic if you use Safari).

    And lol at the Service Provider track. They retired the CCIP more than a year ago.
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