Questions about CCVP path

[aaaa2209]

Hello,
I just got my CCNP months ago. And I want to prepare my CCVP. I know VP requires CCNA VOICE and then I found CCNA VOICE = 640-460 IIUC OR 642-436 CVOICE. And I know 642-436 CVOICE is also one part of the CCVP.
Is 640-460 IIUC really necessary? Can I take 642-436 CVOICE as CCNA VOICE and also as part of CCVP?

That is , I just need to take

642-436 CVOICE
642-446 CIPT1 Implementing Cisco Unified Communications Manager Part 1 (CIPT1 v6.0)
642-642 QoS Quality of Service (QoS)
642-456 CIPT2 Implementing Cisco Unified Communications Manager Part 2 (CIPT2 v6.0)
642-426 TUC

to finish CCVP without taking 640-460 IIUC . Is that right

And I also want to know the differences between 642-444 CIPT 4.1 and 642-446 CIPT1 + 642-456 CIPT2. Can I use the books for 642-446 CIPT1 + 642-456 CIPT2 to prepare 642-444 CIPT ?

Thank you very much.

[mikej412]

Is 640-460 IIUC really necessary? Can I take 642-436 CVOICE as CCNA VOICE and also as part of CCVP?

I find it annoying and confusing that Cisco can't seem to decide whether Marketing or the Technical side of the business should decide the certification tracks.

If you're going to be working with small business and deploying the UC520 (or CallManager Express) then you should do the 640-460 and get the CCNA:Voice.

If you plan to work on Enterprise Voice Systems -- then it seems you can just skip the 640-460 and just use the CVOICE 6.0 to get the "CCNA:Voice".... whatever that means now.

And I also want to know the differences between 642-444 CIPT 4.1 and 642-446 CIPT1 + 642-456 CIPT2.

The CCVP track that includes CIPT 4.1 will reach end of life on December 31, 2009.

CIPT uses the old Cisco CallManager Version 4.1

CIPT1 & CIPT2 uses Cisco Unified Communications Manager Version 6.x

CCVP - Career Certifications & Paths - Cisco Systems

[aaaa2209]

Thank you, mikej412. I really appeciate that.
It seems that it's possible to take 5 exams while having a CCNA to get the CCNP.

[pitviper]

It can be done in “only” 5 tests but if you’re new to VoIP, you’ll be missing out on a lot of CME fundamentals.