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    @shodown you mentioned stuff comes and goes. I seen your lab on youtube. Does your lab consist of equip not used at work and you swap it out once they need it? what are the specs of the server your running in the lab?
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    My server is a older dell server with 12 Gig and 1 TB HD. As far as come and go when I'm working on a project for one of my clients sometimes they send things directly to my home or I take it home when Im' on site. Some of it is mine and some of it is customers. the 2921 is a customer device that I'm working on some faxing projects and I usually build out new sites with it as all the Voicegateways are using that device as a standard so I can make it any site in the topology as the voice cards are always going to be in the same slot.
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    Yeah, I hear ya. My work lab is completely dynamic. For that I use 1U cable management units with hinged covers - that way I can just slap the wires in there an not see them.
    The cable management that you have running down each side of your rack, where'd you get those from?
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    Pretty cool stuff. What model server do you have? I have a dell sc1425 and for me to get it at 12gb has to be single channel memory all throughout do you run into the same issue? I can only max out at 8gb with dual channel memory which is a fraction of the price of the single channel.The 2900 and 3900 series routers are some sleek looking routers. Always treat when i get to play with them.
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    The cable management that you have running down each side of your rack, where'd you get those from?
    Cable Management Rings (for Skeletek Racks):

    Dantrak Net *- New and Used Networking Equipment and Peripherals. Skeletek Racks and Accessories.

    They sell a smaller size too (top 1/2 of my rack) but I don't see them listed now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmarcisco View Post
    Pretty cool stuff. What model server do you have? I have a dell sc1425 and for me to get it at 12gb has to be single channel memory all throughout do you run into the same issue? I can only max out at 8gb with dual channel memory which is a fraction of the price of the single channel.The 2900 and 3900 series routers are some sleek looking routers. Always treat when i get to play with them.

    Sorry I just saw this. I have a Dell something I forgot now. I'll update later on on the memory setup. This was a older server not being used and I picked it up and started to use it. Its pretty busted up, but works. The 2900/3900 are a pain in the a55 for me. I hate dealing with the licensing issues that I run into. Now I usually order the licencing for my customers as a lot of times I show up and the router they want is already purchased and they haven't paid for the features they need. With that said some of the 15.2 features for voice are crazy. I will be doing a lot with those with a few video projects I have coming up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shodown View Post
    The 2900/3900 are a pain in the a55 for me. I hate dealing with the licensing issues that I run into. Now I usually order the licencing for my customers as a lot of times I show up and the router they want is already purchased and they haven't paid for the features they need. With that said some of the 15.2 features for voice are crazy. I will be doing a lot with those with a few video projects I have coming up.
    Yeah, the licensing is awful now. I just got burned on a basic setup with a half a dozen 2911 routers whose sole purpose in life was to terminate data T-1s. Went to add a redundant cable link and all of the sudden in IOS 15, the “IP SLA” commands are not available - had to add an entire tech package license for 1 command.

    Also spent hours on the phone with TAC when a legitimately licensed 2951 showed “EvalRightToUse” with a countdown expiration date for CME and SRST features. After several conflicting stories, it was determined that this was expected behavior. So you basically put the equipment onsite and hold your breath that in 8 weeks it continues to function…Not very cool!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pitviper View Post
    Yeah, the licensing is awful now. I just got burned on a basic setup with a half a dozen 2911 routers whose sole purpose in life was to terminate data T-1s. Went to add a redundant cable link and all of the sudden in IOS 15, the “IP SLA” commands are not available - had to add an entire tech package license for 1 command.

    Also spent hours on the phone with TAC when a legitimately licensed 2951 showed “EvalRightToUse” with a countdown expiration date for CME and SRST features. After several conflicting stories, it was determined that this was expected behavior. So you basically put the equipment onsite and hold your breath that in 8 weeks it continues to function…Not very cool!

    Yep I had that happen with a few devices I put overseas with 150 SRST seats. They told me it was expected. I just wish they would go back to the old model, but they were getting ripped off. People would just buy a router, then find the IOS they really wanted online. The cost between IP base and Adv Ent is pretty huge.
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    Man, I’m jonesn’ to have by lab set back up. Basement was destroyed courtesy of Sandy and my sh!t is literally thrown in piles in the house while I work on re-finishing the basement. I picked up a couple of Cisco UCS C200m2 servers which have lived on the dining room table for over a month LOL All of the rest of my gear is on the floor in the guest room. I’m hoping to get a full server rack from work so that I can move everything back downstairs (and move it around as I work down there) X(
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    Man good luck. My server just took a crap as well. I have been running all my VM's off my MBP. No money in the buget for a UCS at this time.
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    Man good luck. My server just took a crap as well. I have been running all my VM's off my MBP. No money in the buget for a UCS at this time.
    Thanks man. Yeah, I lost 3 computers in the flood – one of which was my secondary lab server. Shortly after Cisco refreshed their rack mount server line leaving the C200m2 and C210m2 EOS’d. I was able to snag a couple of C200m2s for $580 each, brand new (Specs: 1x Xeon E5649 6-core, 8GB RAM). At the time the CPU alone on Newegg was $200 MORE than the server. I ended up combining the CPU, RAM, and PSUs from 2 of them into 1 unit. Added a cheap SAS controller, some additional RAM, and some HDDs (Thanks to the holiday sales!) and ended up with a new primary ESI box.

    So now my ESX setup looks like this:

    Cisco C200 M2 dual 6-core Xeon E5649s, 32GB RAM, 6x GBe NICs, 1x 32GB SSD (OS), 2x 500GB 10k WD V.Raptors
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    So I finally freed up a bit of spare time to start getting the lab back in order. I replaced the Skeletek rack (which served me well for a long time!) with a full sized APC NetShelter – I decided to go this route because A) I wanted to get the equipment as high off of the floor as possible (now that I know in extreme conditions we could get some water again) and B) I needed a 4 post rack to secure the 2 Cisco C200 servers. I moved the lab rack into the back of the cellar and will extend a 12 port patch panel between the rack and my lab bench. I do so much remote work these days that it didn’t make sense to have the rack right next to me anymore. And for the record, a full sized 7’+ enclosure was certainly not meant to go down a set of residential basement stairs LOL It physically got stuck and needed mid-transport disassembly.




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    Your lab is sweet. Nice and everything in once place. Hopefully I can have mine back up by the end of the month.
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    Thanks bud - yeah, I'm keeping it simple and to the point. Not pictured are a couple of 2911 VSEC routers that I picked up on eBay few months ago. I have no clue where the rack mounts ended up LOL. They're bound to turn up as I get things back in order. Don't think that I could go all 2900s unless Cisco releases an everything IOS license for educational purposes (not likely).

    Why did you have to tear your lab down?
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    its not 100 percent tore down, but my server is not working right now. I have to get that back up soon to move foward. I'm taking the IE written in a few week and there are some things I'm a little weak on. I need the 29xx for consulting, but the licences are too high. I'm hoping within a year or 2 I can snag some off ebay cheap with the UC licence already on. most people are only deploying 15.1 so we are cool for right now, but once 15.2 takes off, I will need at least 2 boxes with the UC licence and 15.2


    The other thing is that I've been doing a lot of Video so I may have to spend a hunk of change on soem basic video gear, but I really want to move into UCCE/CVP. A guy called me once about a consulting gig paying over 100 a hour for a UCCE/CVP engineer.
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    PIT/// someone just sent your picture to Cisco's FB page and called it theirs.. was that you???
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    Not me LOL - do you have a link? I can't find it on the page.
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    Wow, what lowlife scum... I found it on the Cert page... Thanks for the heads up bud!

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    hahaha ******* classic!
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    Hey Bud, I just wanted to ask if the hardware from the beginning is still good for current version of CCNA/P:V?

    I'm looking at a decent Voice deployment and it looks like I will need to focus on my efforts on learning a bit voice over the next month or so.

    Just a few questions about the hardware you chose:

    1. With the exception of the NM modules, is there another reason you chose the 2811s over the 2801s?
    2. Out of the different IP Phone models (7941, 7960, 7965) do you recommend running all three different types or nail it down to one or two different models?
    3. I'll probably skip on the PoE switches since none of the switches from IE R/S rack are PoE capable, so I'll probably just use external power packs for the phones, outside on convenience will that cause any other issues? (I assume not)

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    Hi, yes, the 2800s are still more than adequate. The 2900s offer more robust SiP options (especially security), but you won’t see anything specific to the platform on an exam.

    The 2801s can be a bit finicky as to which slots accept VWICs and how many they support (not a big deal), the 2801 uses its own version of IOS, while the 2811/21/51s use the same file – but the #1 factor for me was noise. The 2801s are loud as hell – and that’s coming from someone who has no issue sitting all day with a fired up rack of equipment at ear level! For a while there the 2821s were cheaper than the 2811s – might be worth a check if you are in the market.

    As for phones, it really doesn’t matter. I would avoid the 79x0 models (too old) – look for 79x1s and above for most, and maybe a few 79x2s or better since they support the iLBC codec. The 794xs phones only have 2 line buttons which means you’ll spend a lot of time adding and removing features – the 796xs have 6 line buttons which makes life much easier.

    No problem using power bricks over PoE – you’ll miss out on using the “show power inline” command, but it’s really not that exciting!

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    Available:370.0(w)  Used:308.0(w)  Remaining:62.0(w)
    
    Interface Admin  Oper       Power   Device              Class Max
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    --------- ------ ---------- ------- ------------------- ----- ----
    Fa0/1     auto   on         7.0     IP Phone 7931       3     15.4 
    Fa0/2     auto   on         7.0     IP Phone 7931       3     15.4 
    Fa0/3     auto   on         7.0     IP Phone 7931       3     15.4 
    Fa0/4     auto   on         7.0     IP Phone 7931       3     15.4 
    Fa0/5     auto   on         7.0     IP Phone 7931       3     15.4 
    Fa0/6     auto   on         7.0     IP Phone 7931       3     15.4 
    Fa0/7     auto   on         7.0     IP Phone 7931       3     15.4 
    Fa0/8     auto   on         7.0     IP Phone 7931       3     15.4 
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    Fa0/47    auto   on         7.0     IP Phone 7931       3     15.4 
    Fa0/48    auto   off        0.0     n/a                 n/a   15.4
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    Thanks man!

    The noise factor is enough for me justify the 2811 or 2821. Looks like I might have to buy a second Skeletek rack now.

    Good points on the phones models, I'll definitely be taking all that into account.

    That's good to know I won't have to worry about PoE, I can finally put my 2960's to better use.
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    Been doing quite a bit of lab refreshing of late. I should be good with server versions for a while at least!

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    Updated PSTN/Frame-Relay/Access router - Of course now I have to do a bit of rack juggling to fit this beast in which I'm not too happy about!

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    Now that is one loaded up router!
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