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    Good luck! I just bought 2 x 2950s of ebay, and try hard to find a 3550 for my bcmsn

    are you doing mcse for windows 2008?
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    How long ago did you get your CCNA? It's nice to keep going, so all that knowledge doesn't go stale. Good luck with all of that!
    I took 640-801 on the very last day it as available, November 6th of last year. I've been working with various Cisco routers and switches since then, so I'm keeping on top of some of the material. I've also been reading Routing TCP/IP Volume I on and off since I took the test.

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    Good luck! I just bought 2 x 2950s of ebay, and try hard to find a 3550 for my bcmsn

    are you doing mcse for windows 2008?
    There is no MCSE for Windows Server 2008, that certification is called MCITP: Enterprise Administrator. I'm going to finish up my MCSE (2003), then wait with the Server 2008 stuff until I either have a chance to work with it or after CCNP. I've currently got a 2950, going to work on finding a 3550 for (hopefully) less than $300, and I've got both the CBT Nuggets as well as access to PEC.

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    Aaaaarrrrgh!

    So, first I have an embarrassing confession: I haven't really touched my networking lab in over a year.

    Now for the frustrating part: In order to run version 12.4 of the Cisco IOS with Advanced Enterprise Services, you need a minimum of 128MB main memory and 32MB of flash. The flash memory on a Cisco 1721 router is not upgradable, and you can only stick a 64MB DIMM into the main memory slot. The 1721 is listed as having 64MB of main memory and 32MB of flash built in. . . except in the line that my routers are. I've got the models that come with 32MB main memory and 16MB flash built in, so I'm screwed if I want to use the version of the IOS I want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowhand View Post
    The 1721 is listed as having 64MB of main memory and 32MB of flash built in. . . except in the line that my routers are. I've got the models that come with 32MB main memory and 16MB flash built in, so I'm screwed if I want to use the version of the IOS I want.
    I thought the 1700 series used the little CF shaped cards but with a weird connector.

    How big is the IOS file for the version you want? (Too lazy to go look at CCO)
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    Nevermind. Went to check CCO and its a 22MB file. You won't be able to wedge that into a 16MB flash.
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    It's not a huge loss, I didn't pay a whole lot of money for any of those routers, as I got them through friends and co-workers. And, since you can get 2610XM Routers with 128MB/32MB memory on eBay for about $100 a pop, it's not like I'd have to spend a fortune to replace them. Now, the damn Catalyst 3550's and/or 3560's, on the other hand, I'm going to have to rob a bank in order to fund.

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    slowhand said:
    "I'm going to have to rob a bank in order to fund."




    haha hahaa haahahah
    hahaha that is so true and so funny!
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    Nevermind. Went to check CCO and its a 22MB file. You won't be able to wedge that into a 16MB flash.
    Yup, you're absolutely correct. My basic thought on what image(s) and device(s) to use for my studies is based on the CCIE R&S lab outline. I want to find equipment that's the same or similar to the ones listed there. The way I figure, if those recommendations are good enough for the CCIE, then it's very likely that they're good enough for the CCNP.

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    I've decided to focus on spending money on switches, (3550s mostly,) and I naturally came across some good deals on routers that are beefy enough to run the software you'd need for a pretty good lab. Since I'm trying to be good and exercise some restraint, I thought I'd share these with you guys, (so temptation could get the better of all of you instead of me,):

    Cisco 1721 Router - 32F/64D ADVSECURITY IOS Image 12.4 - $19.99 (Buy It Now)

    LOT OF 5 CISCO 2610XM ROUTERS WITH 128DRAM / 32FLASH - $400.00 (No Shipping Fee)

    Cisco 2610XM 32F/128D IOS 12.4 x 200 Pieces Available - $99.99 (Buy It Now)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowhand View Post
    I've decided to focus on spending money on switches, (3550s mostly,) and I naturally came across some good deals on routers that are beefy enough to run the software you'd need for a pretty good lab. Since I'm trying to be good and exercise some restraint, I thought I'd share these with you guys, (so temptation could get the better of all of you instead of me,):

    Cisco 1721 Router - 32F/64D ADVSECURITY IOS Image 12.4 - $19.99 (Buy It Now)

    LOT OF 5 CISCO 2610XM ROUTERS WITH 128DRAM / 32FLASH - $400.00 (No Shipping Fee)

    Cisco 2610XM 32F/128D IOS 12.4 x 200 Pieces Available - $99.99 (Buy It Now)
    Thats actually quite cheap. Did you buy any from this vendor yet?
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    Not yet, I decided to pool my money into buying some Catalyst 3550s instead.

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    Alright, I'm weak. I bought the four 1721 routers, costing me a total of $105.00 with shipping. Next, I'll go out and buy RAM for them. . . damn my lack of self control!

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    Alright, I'm weak. I bought the four 1721 routers, costing me a total of $105.00 with shipping. Next, I'll go out and buy RAM for them. . . damn my lack of self control!
    Hehe, im not much better if thats any comfort to you. Any new pics of your lab/setup?
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    Hehe, im not much better if thats any comfort to you. Any new pics of your lab/setup?
    Heh, that's going to be my next geek-expenditure, a digital camera.

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    Go get a digital camera then

    Maybe someone here knows about this. I need somehow to remote power on my entire rack. Some sort of IP enable power-on switch. Id like to either browse to it, or telnet into it and turn on the power for my entire rack. I have been unable to find something that will let me do this. Anyone have any ideas for this?
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    Go get a digital camera then

    Maybe someone here knows about this. I need somehow to remote power on my entire rack. Some sort of IP enable power-on switch. Id like to either browse to it, or telnet into it and turn on the power for my entire rack. I have been unable to find something that will let me do this. Anyone have any ideas for this?
    try this search on e-bay
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    Ah, thanks alot. Been looking at APC stuff, and its just *#""#¤ expensive.
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    Like I mentioned earlier in this thread, I was weak. I bought those four 1721 64M/32F routers. Sadly, only three of them worked, but I didn't complain too much because the fourth router had a surprise inside. It may have been dead, but there was a 64MB stick of RAM in the last routers memory slot, which is now happily running one of the others. Along with the two other chips I bought, I now have three of these little guys chugging along at 128M/32F memory. Not too shabby for $105 + $65 for the RAM. I also salvaged one of the 32M/16F 1721 routers and put in an additional 16MB stick of RAM that I scrounged. That brings my (working) lab equipment up to the following:

    3x 1721 Routers - 128M/32F, each running IOS version 12.4 (Advanced Enterprise Services)

    1x 1721 Router - 48M/16F, running IOS version 12.4 (IP)

    1x Catalyst 2950 12-port switch - 16M/8F running IOS version 12.1 (EA)

    2x WIC-1T T1 cards

    1x WIC-1T serial card

    I also have an assortment of other equipment that still needs to be put through it's paces, like an old 2501 router, a 3620 router, and a Dell PowerConnect 5212 switch. I'm going to salvage what I can, see what's worth keeping and what's being donated to co-workers or to the school. I still need to pick up a couple of Catalyst 3550s, and probably some more serial cards for the routers. Still, it's nice to see my little lab finally beginning to take shape.

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    A reasonable deal on eBay for anyone (not me) that's interested in picking up some decent CCNP and CCIE study routers: Lot of 2 Cisco 3640 Routers w/2x NM-1FE-2W & 4x WIC-1T, buy-it-now price: $240

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    Great thread...! I'm hooked.

    This is exactly what I've been looking for... great advice and deals on the equipment I need for the CCNP (failed my first BSCI today).

    Keep it up! I'm also an impulse buyer haha!
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    Could a 3725 be used as one of the main CCNP lab routers ? I keep hearing about the 3640s for CCNPs but never the 3725.
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    Could a 3725 be used as one of the main CCNP lab routers ?
    Sure. You usually don't hear about them because of the cost. For the price of a 3725 you could probably get 2 2600XM series routers.

    The 2600XM used to be reserved for CCIE Labs because of the cost, but since Dynamips/Dynagen has hit the scene, the used hardware market costs have dropped. Unless you need to load several different NMs in one router (like the 3640 or 3725 or 3745), then the 2600XM are probably the new "sweet spot" for home lab routers.
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    Thanks Mike... That skip raid just gets sweeter and sweeter.
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    Unless you need to load several different NMs in one router (like the 3640 or 3725 or 3745), then the 2600XM are probably the new "sweet spot" for home lab routers.
    I've been seeing the same thing. The 2600XM routers are current enough to run the latest IOS, and cheap enough you can pick up a whole lab's worth. I'm really surprised no one has picked up this bundle, since it's ultra-cheap and but has been up for sale several times. (Keep an eye on it, it'll go up on the block again.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowhand View Post
    A reasonable deal on eBay for anyone (not me) that's interested in picking up some decent CCNP and CCIE study routers: Lot of 2 Cisco 3640 Routers w/2x NM-1FE-2W & 4x WIC-1T, buy-it-now price: $240
    SH ... step awaaaaay from the ebay console..... !

    I gets very addictive... I'll just have a look ... ooo lookeie at that ... its a bargain... !

    I am trying to ween myself off the same too.
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