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    I appreciate the words guys. I hate failure, but it drives me harder, so it's a blessing in disguise I guess. Really it's not about "being ahead of" anyone or anything. It's more of just me pushing myself harder and harder. I thrive on pressure, and always have to be engaged in something. ADD is a biotch.
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    Mrock, what are your study sources?

    When you find something particulary hard to grasp I think it is a very good idea to change sources, sometimes a deeper study get things done. In this case, i think checking out Routing TCP/IP Vol.I cant hurt you.

    I am stuying fo the BSCI and reading the forums and seeing so many fails is a scary. I know this is a bunch of committed smart guys. This must be a tough test but you'll definitely get it the next time!

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexMR
    Mrock, what are your study sources?

    When you find something particulary hard to grasp I think it is a very good idea to change sources, sometimes a deeper study get things done. In this case, i think checking out Routing TCP/IP Vol.I cant hurt you.

    I am stuying fo the BSCI and reading the forums and seeing so many fails is a scary. I know this is a bunch of committed smart guys. This must be a tough test but you'll definitely get it the next time!

    Good luck.
    Currently, the BSCI study guide, Doyle's TCP/IP Volume I, and the CCIE R&S Cert guide, along with CBT nuggets to supplement it all. Generally I begin reading, lab things as I go to experiment, then go back to reading. When something comes along that is confusing, I check Doyle's TCP/IP first, and if it's not there, then the CCIE R&S guide.

    I know my test scores say otherwise, but I'm not having a hard time grasping the material, I just haven't given myself the time to commit it all to memory, you know? I literally began studying for the BSCI 3 1/2 weeks ago. I am promising I will pass on the next go. Now that the second chance is out of the way, I am tentatively setting a date (without actually scheduling it), and will adjust as necessary based on how comfortable I feel when the time comes. I'm not shooting to just pass, but I'd rather do better than the minimum. By just barely passing, I'll be screwing myself when I move onto other certs, I think. Of course, a pass is a bass, but, we shall see.
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    I understand not taking the exam when you feel you might be able to pass without feeling 100% about the material. I did that with the CCNA and I honestly dont want to do it with the CCNP, because i need the certification in order to achieve my career change. I took the CCNA without being well prepared in WAN links. I passed but Ive found myself studying from the CCNA book while studying BSCI. That shouldnt be necessary if one take the exam well prepared. Also, i really cant afford to fail a 200USD exam.

    If you had only been studying for 3.5weeks the scores are understandable. This is supposed to be the hardest exam of the CCNP, it sure doesnt sound like a walk in the park.

    I havent published my goals in terms of timeframe but they are kinda wicked, to say the least. I have over 20hours of study under my belt now and I started last thursday, a couple hours after i passed the ICND2.

    Im sure you will get it next time, just give it some time to sink in.

    Best wishes!
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    try the bsci lab guide
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    Quote Originally Posted by kryolla
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    I would agree on that....
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    Passed finally. 877 was my final score. I don't have my score sheet on me, but I got a 100% on IS-IS, and 80-85 on most of the other sections, which makes sense..I studied the hell out of IS-IS, because my first attempt I got a 14% on it. Got a 75% on multicasting, which I think was the same as my last attempt. Not too bad. I was kinda pissed that I got hit with my 2nd sim on question #57..hah....

    Third time is a charm!!


    FWIW, I did nothing differently this attempt, just a lot of late night study sessions (and red bull). I have been averaging 4-6 cans of red bull per night. My schedule for the last 2 weeks has been work, come home, eat, study till approx 3am, wake up at 8am, go to work, repeat. Since my last failure (one week ago), I reread the entire BSCI book, which helped a TON..it really saved me..

    I also watched Jeremy Ciora's outstanding BGP Theory CBT nugget this morning before the test, to make sure I was sharp on that stuff.

    I now get a week off until I begin on the next exam...this time I'm not scheduling that sucker for a good 4-6 weeks..at least..

    Almost forgot..I did do one thing different. I was on my way out the door, and I noticed I've inadvertently worn the same blue shirt to each failure prior to this. I promptly changed shirts and success was inevitable..
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    Awesome man. Congrats. Now kick me in the ass and hit repeat until I get this monkey off my back....
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    Congrats on the pass!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cisco_trooper
    Awesome man. Congrats. Now kick me in the ass and hit repeat until I get this monkey off my back....
    Man, you are way too good with this stuff to not get it very soon. If I could pass that beast it'll be too easy for you.

    thank you to everyone..I'm incredibly relieved to pass, and just as excited to begin the next test. I might go a somewhat alternate route, and go after the ISCW or ONT before BCMSN. We shall see.

    Also, so I can maybe be of help to those who have yet to taken the BSCI, here's my quick thoughts of my 3 attempts:

    -You don't have to be a BGP pro, but know the theory behind BGP pretty well, and know your show commands. Truthfully, they weren't that technical on BGP.

    -Multicasting is a lot about theory as well, although if you lab it up to see the actual changes in your network based on changes in the RP and stuff..it'll be a huge help.

    -EIGRP was hit pretty well. A lot more than I expected. Know the routing table well, and the behavior of EIGRP as it relates to changes in the network.

    All in all, I'm sure it's no surprise, but do plenty of labs. It's not required, but the concepts tend to stick a lot better when you've seen them in action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrock4
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    Awesome man. Congrats. Now kick me in the ass and hit repeat until I get this monkey off my back....
    Man, you are way too good with this stuff to not get it very soon. If I could pass that beast it'll be too easy for you.

    thank you to everyone..I'm incredibly relieved to pass, and just as excited to begin the next test. I might go a somewhat alternate route, and go after the ISCW or ONT before BCMSN. We shall see.
    Yeah, rockin OSPF right now amazed at how much I've forgotten...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cisco_trooper
    Yeah, rockin OSPF right now amazed at how much I've forgotten...
    In two days you'll be the OSPF guru, it's sick.
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    I've had good luck with dark green, light blue, and bright blue polo shirts on exams. But I haven't found the right color yet for the CCIE Lab Exam yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrock4

    I have been averaging 4-6 cans of red bull per night. My schedule for the last 2 weeks has been work, come home, eat, study till approx 3am, wake up at 8am, go to work, repeat.


    First, congrats ont he pass!!

    Second, MORE important, is that I have to strongly suggest that you be careful with your sleep and study habits. I have been extremely busy and waas doing that for a couple months. ALl of the sudden I wa sfeeling really tired and my liufts in the gym were dropping incredibly. I was feeling like crap. One day i was fine and the next it was hard for me to stand up from a chair.

    After something else happen I decided to go tot he doctor and I was diagnosed with severe fatigue. I only had to satrt sleeping at least 7hours and meditation, and after 3 weeks Im feeling awesome.

    Sometime we put too much pressure on ourselves and to some level that is good...the line that divides the healthy pressure from killing stress is not that noticeable.

    Once again, congratulations!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikej412
    I've had good luck with dark green, light blue, and bright blue polo shirts on exams. But I haven't found the right color yet for the CCIE Lab Exam yet.
    Hot pink, trust me

    Congrats to the OP!
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    Passed finally. 877 was my final score.

    Third time is a charm!!
    Congratulations man you deserve it after all that hard work and perseverance


    I also watched Jeremy Ciora's outstanding BGP Theory CBT nugget this morning before the test, to make sure I was sharp on that stuff.

    I now get a week off until I begin on the next exam...this time I'm not scheduling that sucker for a good 4-6 weeks..at least..
    Ciora is a very enthusiastic instructor and understands the larger concepts. I am using his ISCW nugget to study right now. Take the week off man, you deserverve it after whooping the BSCI
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    Yeah, I have the 2003 CBT Nugget Archive from work..I couldn't stand to watch the CCNP ones. Jeremy Ciora is just super animated, and keeps me interested.

    I've had a day off..I'm ready to get back to work here after this coming weekend (when I'll celebrate). Not sure what my next move is at the moment.
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