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    Default "To re-certify, or not to re-certify that is the question?"

    Hi Folks,

    I wanted to get some opinions\advice here.

    I have 9 Cisco certs in total CCNA, CCNA Security, CCNP Security and they will in expire in June 2016.

    In my current role I work as a Security Analyst and don't have any exposure to Cisco technology that I manage.

    Previously I worked as a network Engineer, but for the last 8 years I have been in security roles.

    Going forward I'm planning to get my CISSP and continue to grow in the security field.

    I have worked hard to get my Cisco Certs and feel reluctant to let them go, but not sure if there is any value in keeping them. The Cisco certs have certainly helped me to get in the position I'm in now. Also understanding networking is really important in security, but just not sure if taking the CCNP switch exam for example would be a good move. I don't need to logon to switches and setup vlans, VTP, STP etc. However I do have a say in the build standard of the switch and how to secure it.

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    I don't currently have any Cisco certs, but I'm proud of the certifications I've worked hard to get and would have a hard letting them expire even if they weren't necessarily helping me out in my current job. You never know when you might want/need to switch job roles and having the active certs would definitely be beneficial for that. If it is a matter of time and money then that's a whole different matter completely but if that's not an issue I'd try to keep them active.
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    Hi Anderson,

    Thanks for the reply. Yeah Im kinda having a hard time letting them go. I did really enjoy configuring and working with Cisco security technology. I still manage firewalls, but they are Fortigates. Time and money is not an issue. I think the switch exam could be a good bet as it still dealing with a lot of the fundamentals which is good for security folk. However it is also a lot of configuration which I dont do at all now.
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    If time and money aren't an issue, then I say go for CCNP R&S. The more you know, the better, from what I understand about the security field.
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    I was in your exact same position... and I let them expire. I think it was a mistake. I am now looking at the possibility of needing to ramp back up on some Cisco stuff and having those certs would have been great.
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    Yes it certainly helps to have the networking side down as a security professional. I also would like to explore Linux and do some more studying around hacking/pentesting.

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    Its good to hear from someone in the same position. Why do you think it was a mistake to let them expire?

    Its always good to be strong on the networking side because I have been in situations with network engineers where you need to fight your corner. I have retained a lot of the information I have learned on the Cisco side, but some of it has also gone a bit stale. There are some advantages to refreshing my knowledge, but I really don't think I will be logging back on to switches and making config changes.
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    @cjthedj45,

    Your avatar is about Cisco, yet you want to drop your Cisco cert? Up to you, but it would seem easier to maintain them long term then let them expire and hope to never need them.

    If you can look to your 5 and 10 year goals and you do not foresee the benefit of retaining the certs than let them go and do not look back. Worst case, you'd have to retest? If you did it once, you could do it again. If you are seeing yourself growing in management/admin and not the guy/gal doing the work, stay up on the technology by reading/light study but skip the exams.

    I do believe it would be difficult to let them expire, but if you do not see yourself working directly with the technology, you likely have other areas you should be focusing your attention on.
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    I'd maintain those. Will be good to have once you get your CISSP for CPE credits.
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    I wouldnt let it expire. Lots of people that I know let it expire and they regret it. Its icing in a cake no matter what.
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    I'm on the Juniper side now and I'm thinking about letting my CCNx's expire. I have a solid foundation so it would take no time to re-certify again if I absolutely needed. Looking at gathering some low hanging Juniper/F5 certs in the time being though.
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    If you are in the network field which sounds like you could be then it probably good for you to hold on to them as well? Its good that you have juniper as well as some organisations operate with juniper and Cisco so someone with both would be a good catch.

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    Thanks I think Im probably going to hang on to them. Just need to decided which Cisco Exam now

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    Great response. There could still be a need to use them in the future. Having a deeper knowledge of networking is never going to hurt a security professional either. Think Im going to maintain them

    Thanks all for the responses. I think I'm going to maintain my Cisco certs as I do enjoy the networking side and I think it will help me as a security professional. Also there is a lot of blood sweat and tears that have gone into those certs over the years.

    I'm thinking the CCDA, CCDP track could be quite good for me. I currently get involved in a lot of projects and end up leading a lot of design work. This could be advantageous for progression into security architect role as well.

    I think this means that I will have to pass the CCDA and a CCDP exam for all my other certs to be re-certified.
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    Since you don't have much time, it probably makes sense to take Arch exam first to renew your certs and then take CCDA exam to get CCDP.
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    Ah! it looks like I will actually need to do a CCNP first because the following is required.

    Prerequisites

    Valid Cisco CCDA and CCNA Routing and Switching or any Cisco CCIE certification can act as a prerequisite.

    Probably go for the switch exam
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    Glad to see you decided to keep them going.

    I've wanted to post this question myself but since I have more time than you I've let it slide. CCNA, CCNA-Sec, and CCDA here and mine are up in February 2017. The networking knowledge I've gained from them has been invaluable in many aspects of my job and in consulting, but in the past couple of years they've just been conversation pieces on my resume' as I rarely apply the Cisco-specific aspects anymore.

    Plantwiz, kiki, and NOC-Ninja make some good points. I think I'll do the CCNP SWITCH exam as well to keep mine going...never hurts to have a couple of superfluous feathers in the cap and it's easier to maintain by taking one exam instead of taking three or more over again to get back to the same level. My MCSE is up for renewal in November too, so it looks like I'll be busy in the latter part of this year.
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    Looks like you already worked it out, and you got great answers from others. I'd just add that there's no real downside to keeping any certification, but there could be a downside to letting them lapse. You never know what trick life will throw at you, but I can't picture too many scenarios where one would say "Darn, I wish I didn't have this certification" but there are numerous situations where you could wish you still had them.

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    I've been in a network engineering role using Cisco for the last 6 years. I just moved to a new company that primarily uses Juniper between their access and core layers, I have no plans on leaving soon. I was about to begin studying for my CCDP regardless but a lot of it appears to be based on design's using Cisco technologies that doesn't correlate directly with Juniper tech.

    I feel comfortable enough with Cisco CLI and general networking fundamentals that I can always re-cert back up to CCNP R&S, it's just a matter of a little more money and time if it comes down to it.
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    A IT guy once told me this about certs and letting them expire...

    "its better to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it"

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    Just to add my experience. I once was a Cisco CCNA instructor at a local college and then moved on to another role which does not use Cisco equipment. I let mine expire and I regret it and I am now looking to redo CCNA I am just struggling to start. If I was in your shoes now I would maintain it. You never know when you might need it and it is always nice to have. I would look to progress with CCNP Switching and routing or as mentioned above, look at the design path.
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    I'd feel really sad if I let one of my certs expire. It's a personal challenge to keep getting them and not letting them expire. It's like having a championship belt, then not defend it for a long time and have someone else be the new champ. I really like the idea of taking a more advanced cert to recertify the ones below it.
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    I let my LPIC-1 expire as I did not see a point in taking more exams from LPI. I am still with Linux though, as I will soon be sitting RHCSA. Yes, I put an effort into preparing for the exam as there weren't many guides available for those exams at the time. It was a stepping stone. I don't feel like that effort was in vain. Although I let that particular cert expire, I am still following the same line of certs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjthedj45 View Post
    I have 9 Cisco certs in total CCNA, CCNA Security, CCNP Security and they will in expire in June 2016.
    If you do let them lapse, I think expired Cisco certs still hold a lot of weight with employers. After all there hasn't been radical advancements in Cisco equipment for several years. If I was hiring someone, I give an application a lot more attention with expired CCNP security cert than someone with just a current CCNA cert.
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    Hi,

    I'm a little confused by your questions, do you have to re-take exams to keep the Cisco certs or just taking CPEs and paying the required fees enough to keep your certs? If paying the fees and CPEs is enough, I will say do that to keep your certs- although I wouldn't advise you pay for all 9 certs (usually I know with most vendors, keeping your higher certs is enough to meet the requirement for the lower ones- not sure how Cisco does it). However, if you have to retake all 9 certs, that will be plain ridiculous, in which case I would advise you ficus on just the higher and most valuable ones and let the lower certs expire.

    It takes time and huge resources to get these certs and since you plan on getting Security certs like CISSP, I wouldn't focus too much trying to renew lower Cisco certs that may not be required to move your career forward at this time.

    Hope my little piece makes sense. Good luck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebanny View Post
    I'm a little confused by your questions, do you have to re-take exams to keep the Cisco certs or just taking CPEs and paying the required fees enough to keep your certs?
    To renew your Cisco certifications you need to take one exam at the same or higher level. The exam can be from the same or a different track. If you fail to renew with in the deadline (2-5 years depending on the certification), you would need to restart from the beginning. Depending on where your security interests lie, it can be advantageous to have fluency in networking. For the cost of one CCNP exam, and a few weekends' study, it is probably worthwhile to maintain the certifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjthedj45 View Post
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    Ah! it looks like I will actually need to do a CCNP first because the following is required.

    Prerequisites

    Valid Cisco CCDA and CCNA Routing and Switching or any Cisco CCIE certification can act as a prerequisite.

    Probably go for the switch exam
    Passing ARCH will still renew your certs even if you don't have the pre-requisites for CCDP. I think you're making the right choice by renewing your certs. You never know when an opportunity will come along later on where your Cisco certs will be beneficial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reload@ View Post
    Passing ARCH will still renew your certs even if you don't have the pre-requisites for CCDP. I think you're making the right choice by renewing your certs. You never know when an opportunity will come along later on where your Cisco certs will be beneficial.
    That's the other bit about keeping the certs. They mightn't be that useful in your current job, but something might happen and you end up looking for another job, they can be a bit of insurance.
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