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    I see a lot of people with a goal for CISSP which is worrying sounds like everyone and his dog will have it soon and it will be devalued so much it will be like the paper MCSE's in the past.

    Guys if you do not have the experience please do not go for it, I know you can get associate but you still using the CISSP name and you just a support guy. Leave security to the experienced big dogs please.
    The "paper MCSEs" of the past were because so many people were dumping the MCSE and therefore didn't have the skillset that was supposed to be associated with that certification, not because so many people had it. The CISSP and most ISC2 tests are incredibly hard to dump given the question pool size and how quickly they age out questions so it's a lot harder to be a "paper CISSP."

    I wouldn't waste my time worrying about people not having experience taking the CISSP exam. If someone gets an Associate of ISC2, they aren't technically using the CISSP name unless they are lying on their resume by saying they have a CISSP and if that's the case, they could still lie even without the "Associate of ISC2" and claim they have the CISSP. At that point, it's up to the employer to confirm.

    That being said, the CISSP is not a overly technical exam in nature. It's a mile wide and an inch deep. I feel like people who judge people who have a CISSP and aren't super 1337 hax0rs have no idea what the CISSP is about. It's more of a security management test than it is a practioner test.
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    #102
    Quote Originally Posted by cert_king View Post
    Leave security to the experienced big dogs please.
    Terrible advice. Advice no one here asked for, stop criticizing other peoples goals, concentrate on commenting on your own. 5 posts? masked_king = cert_king. Stop embarrassing yourself. Humble yourself, you can learn a lot from many highly talented and experienced individuals here.

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    I am not a pup, and I focus and get good certs not just all over the place with certs like SNIA, A+, Prince 2 pick a field and become a master don't get different certs and try and jump on the security bandwagon.
    Some people get certs through school, work, or over the years. I have my A+. I'm going for my CISSP. Oh, the A+ was from the 90's. So, while it's worthless now, it was a stepping stone on my journey to where I am now. I have some really shitty certs (CIW?!), but they were part of my education. Vista cert? Employer paid for it. It was a fun exam, though, as I loved Vista. Security bandwagon? For many, they've been a part of security for a long time.
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    Loved Vista?!

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    Masked_King == cert_king
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    #106
    Quote Originally Posted by cert_king View Post
    I am not a pup, and I focus and get good certs not just all over the place with certs like SNIA, A+, Prince 2 pick a field and become a master don't get different certs and try and jump on the security bandwagon.
    My certs just show my way through IT. I started few years ago as IT OPS, later worked on implementation new storage/backup solution, disaster recovery and finally info sec. What's wrong in this case to study stuff I have to work on and pass exams to proof the knowledge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisone View Post
    Terrible advice. 5 posts? masked_king = cert_king.
    Least obvious name change. LoL.
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    Least obvious name change. LoL.

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    #109
    Back on topic, I'm planning to do the MCSA upgrade to 2016, because I will have just completed the MCSA on 2012 and the company is making me go to Server 2016 training. I may possibly take the 2016 Security test, as well, to complete the MCSE.

    After that, I don't know. I expect I will begin studying for whatever I'm going to do for VCP renewal toward the end of the year because my deadline for passing is February 2019. I may do the VCAP Design to go with my other VCAP (or whatever they are calling it now) to upgrade my VMware credentials.

    I might also do one of RHCSA or AWS:SA Associate; neither would be a HUGE stretch goal for me other than taking time away from other endeavors, professional and otherwise.

    I've been more focused on "learning" rather than "certification" lately, but detoured onto MS certification this year because my credentials are so out of date. I am more interested in developing a foundation that will help me to survive in the cloud era and ideally be able to land a devops role in a couple of years, meaning broadening coding skills and becoming more proficient configuring Linux systems than I am today, and becoming more platform agnostic in general.
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    I think this is it for now. I'll probably add to this or subtract depending on how the year plays out.

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    #112
    Quote Originally Posted by trojin View Post
    My certs just show my way through IT. I started few years ago as IT OPS, later worked on implementation new storage/backup solution, disaster recovery and finally info sec. What's wrong in this case to study stuff I have to work on and pass exams to proof the knowledge?
    Sorry I take it back, how many years have you been in security management?
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    #113
    Quote Originally Posted by Iristheangel View Post
    Least obvious name change. LoL.
    Not the same person, as I said I apologize to all the people who have been working in security management and are planning on getting the CISSP.

    All the support guys or techies this is not a cert for you move on, this is big dog stuff not head in a computer not able to translate tech to the business then complaining they do not know anything.
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    #114
    Quote Originally Posted by Iristheangel View Post
    The "paper MCSEs" blah blah
    You make some good points, assuming you are a PA for a security manager?
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    #115
    Quote Originally Posted by cert_king View Post
    You make some good points, assuming you are a PA for a security manager?

    PA = personal assistant?

    Yep. Iris is a great personal assistant. Makes a great cup of coffee, too.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cert_king View Post
    You make some good points, assuming you are a PA for a security manager?
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    edit: going to be nice...

    My goals are obtainable for 2018, but they also prepare me for 2019!
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    #119
    Quote Originally Posted by cert_king View Post
    You make some good points, assuming you are a PA for a security manager?
    Why would my points matter more or less if I'm a manager? Please elaborate why in your response.
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    PA = personal assistant?

    Yep. Iris is a great personal assistant. Makes a great cup of coffee, too.



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    #121
    Quote Originally Posted by cert_king View Post
    Not the same person, as I said I apologize to all the people who have been working in security management and are planning on getting the CISSP.

    All the support guys or techies this is not a cert for you move on, this is big dog stuff not head in a computer not able to translate tech to the business then complaining they do not know anything.
    It's true that it's a higher level exam but even ISC2's own site will say the CISSP is ideal for those roles as well as for security consultants, security analysts, security auditors, security architects, network architects, etc. Screenshot below.
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    That being said, you don't have to wait until you're working in middle management somewhere to learn to "translate tech to the business." I would say this would be an awesome skill to have no matter what level you're on since it will help you move up in your career. Personally, I have zero interest in management and have turned down many such roles in the past but when I was a network engineer, I still had to walk into the CIOs office and communicate what was going on and why certain projects needed to be prioritized in layman's terms. I still talk to CIOs, CTOs, CISOs, IT Managers, etc daily both in my professional career and my extracurricular career - even more so now. Being able to map business needs to technology and explaining the pros and cons for each path or design to people who aren't engineers is a critical skill to have whether or not you are in management.
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    I am sorry everyone truth is I am jealous I am not a big dog not even a pup I am a cat (you can make up the jokes). I wish a goal for me was CISSP I can not even spell it. My goal is to follow in your footsteps and one day talk to an IT manager.

    Also the people giving me bad rep and saying nasty things please stop we need to build each other up not say nasty things that hurt my feelings.
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    How is this tr. oll account still active?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkNewb View Post
    How is this tr. oll account still active?
    Why am I a *****? Because I do not agree with you? I say one thing you moan I say another you complain.

    Maybe a goal for 2018 for you should be to let other people have a different opinion from you and to be more caring.
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