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    This is not a "read a book and pass the test" exam. You will need actual hands-on experience to pass this exam.
    Isn't just a completely multiple choice test though? Hands on is definitely the best way to learn almost anything, but find it hard to believe multiple choice test questions actually "needs" hands on experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkNewb View Post
    Isn't just a completely multiple choice test though? Hands on is definitely the best way to learn almost anything, but find it hard to believe multiple choice test questions actually "needs" hands on experience.
    Once you take the exam you will see what I mean. Don't wana give away too much here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkNewb View Post
    Isn't just a completely multiple choice test though? Hands on is definitely the best way to learn almost anything, but find it hard to believe multiple choice test questions actually "needs" hands on experience.
    I almost want to reschedule mine for tomorrow and just go take it to see what it's like. I've got the GPEN already, so it's not like I need it.
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    I'm assuming they will not allow more than 400 people to sign up for the beta. If you successfully signed up then you have a spot.
    I asked Comptia if since my I scheduled my test does that mean I'm guaranteed a seat. Their exact response "If 400 people take the exam prior to your test date on March 21st you will not be able to take the exam and you will be issued a refund. "

    Debating on just canceling it as I'm not gonna waste my time studying for something that might not even happen.
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    I'm sure people will report here if their PenTest+ exam is cancelled, so we'll know when that threshold has been hit. So many people have signed up for April that our March exam dates may be safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkNewb View Post
    I asked Comptia if since my I scheduled my test does that mean I'm guaranteed a seat. Their exact response "If 400 people take the exam prior to your test date on March 21st you will not be able to take the exam and you will be issued a refund. "Debating on just canceling it as I'm not gonna waste my time studying for something that might not even happen.
    I postponed my CompTIA Cloud+ beta exam SO many time since I was juggling work and graduate classes at the same time. I ended up scheduling it for the very last day to take the exam (I think they announced it closed Oct 27). I guess 400 people hadn't signed up for it because I was able to take it. I wouldn't worry about 400 people signing up for PenTest+.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkNewb View Post
    Isn't just a completely multiple choice test though? Hands on is definitely the best way to learn almost anything, but find it hard to believe multiple choice test questions actually "needs" hands on experience.
    There are a number of exams that require hands-on in order to answer multiple-choice questions. The best one I've taken was Cisco's T-Shoot exam for the R/S CCNP. Most of the simulations had the same network and the same reported problem but you needed to find where the problem was, what technology it was with and then select the best option to fix it. Doing so required to to find the answer in the simulation. I haven't taken this exam but I expect there's a simulated component with the products mentioned and you need to find an answer using that product.
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    Thats true about simulations. It does say that questions are "Multiple choice and performance based" on their site too. So I'm sure you're right.
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    Hi Guys,
    I wish to register for the CompTIA Pentest Beta exam, but I have a doubt. Once I attend and pass the Beta exam, will I be considered as a successful candidate and get original certification/CPT+ Certified in future OR will I be given a Beta Certified/Certification OR do I have to take the exam again once it is comes out as a full certification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waffle cone View Post
    Hi Guys,
    I wish to register for the CompTIA Pentest Beta exam, but I have a doubt. Once I attend and pass the Beta exam, will I be considered as a successful candidate and get original certification/CPT+ Certified in future OR will I be given a Beta Certified/Certification OR do I have to take the exam again once it is comes out as a full certification.
    Thankyou Guys.
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    Thanks a lot for the reply NetworkNewb.
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    Good Morning Everyone, So has anyone recently taken the beta exam? Any thoughts, opinions, etc...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NetworkNewb View Post
    They are definitely milking everything they can out of these security certs!
    I concur!
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    Cybersecurity is where the money is at. The CompTIA decision maker who authorized CASP, CSA+ and Pentest+ will either be lauded as shrewd or a failure.

    Their goal seems to be CISSP, CEH and incident response equivalents.
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    So has anyone taken the test recently? If so can post some tips or hints
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    Quote Originally Posted by arussnfl View Post
    So has anyone taken the test recently? If so can post some tips or hints
    Hint: Be an expert penetration tester
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    I just took the PenTest+ beta ( March 15, 2018 ) and here are some of my thoughts:

    All in all I had a fun time taking the PenTest+ exam. I completed all 110 exam items in 103 minutes. There were a few sims, but most were the typical CompTIA-style items and options that we all are familiar with. Many item stems (questions) required my re-reading once or twice.

    The item difficulty ranged across the board. I can see how any exam item answered (in)correctly by 80%+ of the candidates taking this beta exam would not be used in the released exam.

    Tools, command lines, output interpretation, rules/processes/best practices, and pentesting puzzle solving--very true to what is listed in the PenTest+ objectives.

    The most fun to me were items that required knowledge of coding--bash, python, ruby (often mistaken for perl), and Powershell--also as detailed in the PenTest+ objectives. Rather clever some of the programing items were. I'd like to see more of these types of items in CompTIA exams.

    To me, the PenTest+ (beta) was more of an assessment of my weaknesses in pentesting than a test of my strengths. For example, it showed how really weak I am in pen testing Web-based systems--not a revelation to me. I do not do pentesting, and I would probably need 2-3 years of continuous, hands-on experience to be worthy of this exam.

    And no, I do not think I passed
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    Thank you for taking the time providing these details!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMurray View Post
    I just took the PenTest+ beta ( March 15, 2018 ) and here are some of my thoughts:

    All in all I had a fun time taking the PenTest+ exam. I completed all 110 exam items in 103 minutes. There were a few sims, but most were the typical CompTIA-style items and options that we all are familiar with. Many item stems (questions) required my re-reading once or twice.

    The item difficulty ranged across the board. I can see how any exam item answered (in)correctly by 80%+ of the candidates taking this beta exam would not be used in the released exam.

    Tools, command lines, output interpretation, rules/processes/best practices, and pentesting puzzle solving--very true to what is listed in the PenTest+ objectives.

    The most fun to me were items that required knowledge of coding--bash, python, ruby (often mistaken for perl), and Powershell--also as detailed in the PenTest+ objectives. Rather clever some of the programing items were. I'd like to see more of these types of items in CompTIA exams.

    To me, the PenTest+ (beta) was more of an assessment of my weaknesses in pentesting than a test of my strengths. For example, it showed how really weak I am in pen testing Web-based systems--not a revelation to me. I do not do pentesting, and I would probably need 2-3 years of continuous, hands-on experience to be worthy of this exam.

    And no, I do not think I passed
    I took it this morning 3/19/18. I completely agree with JDMurray. I am mainly a blue teamer looking to get more involved in Red Teaming. As mentioned above the objectives are pretty spot on. Scripting and the web apps is definitely a weakness I will need to work on. all in all this exam was good. I also do not believe I passed it but it will help out for future studying.
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    Really interesting to see the feedback on this exam. I've always thought that the CompTIA certs were good for measuring ones baseline knowledge on each cert topic. For me the issue was always value proposition. I got the Net+ and Sec+ and they did nothing for my career. I did however just pick up the CySA+ and CASP books to read periodically since I have been away from the technical side of InfoSec. For me I find value in using the study material for their certs to keep knowledge fresh in the requisite areas. No books out for Pentest+ yet, but I suspect they would make a good library add for the same reason, to keep fresh on stuff.
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    Hopefully this will be a good replacement for GPEN. SANS courses are just prohibitively expensive.
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    Hopefully this will be a good replacement for GPEN. SANS courses are just prohibitively expensive.
    funny enough, I took these a week apart, and I feel like they were pretty comparable, with the comptia one being slightly more difficult.

    Same amount of questions, no real official study material, and not open book. The questions were a bit broader also which was a bit more frustrating.

    I enjoyed it though, assume I failed, and agree with JD Murray
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    I enjoyed it though, assume I failed
    Just took it today, also enjoyed it but am not expecting much. However, the overwhelming pessimism I'm seeing could be good news for us. I've never failed a CompTIA exam before.

    I did however, just fail the C|HFI a few days ago... (been lagging on my WGU progress). The C|HFI had garbage questions (like "What data is on the 5th block of a CD-ROM?"). This test had great questions though. Lots and lots of malware analysis, my goodness. I feel like this could help mildly raise the prestige of CompTIA certs.

    One thing I am very curious about is how pentest+ will fall in line with the stackable certs or if there will be a new one. My plan is to take CSA+ for the "Cyber Analytics Expert" stackable cert, pentest+ until I pass and then I'm done with CompTIA (However, I have mistakenly said that before).
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    Quote Originally Posted by dialectical View Post
    Just took it today, also enjoyed it but am not expecting much. However, the overwhelming pessimism I'm seeing could be good news for us. I've never failed a CompTIA exam before.

    I did however, just fail the C|HFI a few days ago... (been lagging on my WGU progress). The C|HFI had garbage questions (like "What data is on the 5th block of a CD-ROM?"). This test had great questions though. Lots and lots of malware analysis, my goodness. I feel like this could help mildly raise the prestige of CompTIA certs.

    One thing I am very curious about is how pentest+ will fall in line with the stackable certs or if there will be a new one. My plan is to take CSA+ for the "Cyber Analytics Expert" stackable cert, pentest+ until I pass and then I'm done with CompTIA (However, I have mistakenly said that before).
    right, i have a feeling the curve for the beta will be pretty low. with CySA a lot of of it is stuff you could just know through other studies, general cyber experience, etc.

    this is pretty specialized and drilled down. So be cool to get a pass this go around.

    As said though, by most, good exam
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    Quote Originally Posted by sunto View Post
    Hopefully this will be a good replacement for GPEN. SANS courses are just prohibitively expensive.
    This is my hope too. Working as a contractor, we just had a major change with one of our large clients. Previously they required GCIA for specific job functions. Last year they switched the requirements for that position to CSA+. Those with GCIA were able to get it waived, but it did show the direction of things.

    Of course their pentesting knowledge is lacking. Their current requirement is "A pentesting certification". Which used to mean GPEN, but we've had some get eJPT just to meet the requirement. I feel like with the hard-on a lot of large organizations (and the .gov) have for CompTIA, that Pentest+ will become the requirement for certification and SEC560/GPEN will be a nice to have.

    Another thought I've had. I wonder if this will force GIAC to become more competitive independent of SANS. SANS training is second to none, and while CompTIA might put some good books out, some of their partners might have some good hands-on classes, I don't see them touching SANS in quality of training. If the CPT+ exam is held as a requirement, I could absolutely save some money by having employees take SEC560, then the CPT+ exam, instead of paying for GPEN.
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