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    Default MTA Certifications worth it?

    Are the MTA certs worth getting? Are they too entry level? Icould see the value going up since comptia is now requiring recertifying every3 years for A+ and Net+ and that may turn people off from getting those certs.
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    Re-certification didn't put off the Cisco community from getting any CC* certs ...

    I suppose if you go down the Microsoft route then they probably won't hurt, but you may as well go straight the MCTS route ... Once you go for the higher certs, such as MCTS / MCITP - the MTA ones pretty much become redundant, same with CompTia ones ..

    Sorry, I am not really a fan of the entry level ones and never did them - so can't REALLY comment I guess (only ever done the free beta CompTia ones).
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    The MTA exams are mostly aimed at academic institutions not IT professionals, like jibbajabba says, just go with the higher level ones and that will get you where you want to go faster.
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    Allow me to clarify, no.
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    Same question here.

    While people say that MTA isn't worth it, I'm also hearing there's no reason to look at the MCSA without a lot of experience in a live environment. Since MCP is gone it seems like the MTA is the only way MS left to certify basic competency.
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    A quick search on Indeed - number of results:
    MTA Microsoft - 170
    MCTS Microsoft - 913
    MCSA Microsoft - 1154
    MCITP Microsoft - 1824 - I was surprised to see more hits than for MCSA!
    MCSE Microsoft - 3924

    Just for comparison:
    CCNA - 6848
    RHCE - 709
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    Default More ways to judge a cert than # of job posts

    This metric assumes that you can judge the value of a cert by a simple search for its mention in job ads. That's only part of the job search process. There are other ways certs contribute to a job search. If I say "some experience with Windows Server" that means nothing. If you say I passed an MTA exam on Windows Server that proves I know something about the technology, although it may not prove I'm ready to administrate an enterprise system. Many of those postings say the credential is desired not required, and most require years of experience someone looking to get an MTA probably doesn't have. A lot of entry level job postings ask for experience with a technology but don't ask for certification, and an MTA should show an employer the job seeker knows enough about the technology to work with it effectively without breaking it.

    Certifications exist for people to prove to employers that they know the things they know. The real question about an MTA is if it will do this for the candidates who hold it.

    The more I think about the MTA in Windows Sever, the more I think it is for me. My experience with Windows Server is academic, so an MTA accurately reflects my knowledge of the technology. I am not interested in going the Windows cert route because I'd much rather do Linux administration. I have professional experience in Linux and I plan to earn my Red Hat Certifications. I would like to show potential employers that I can work with MS server technology if I need to, and I'm hoping an MTA will help me do that more than saying I took a class in it.
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    I just bought the kindle version of the MTA Windows Server book on Amazon for $20. It's a nice intro for someone at the beginning of their career. Going right for MCSA 08 without any admin experience would be pretty tough.
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    By the way, you can still do the 70-29* exams, which will retire on July 31. The 70-290 is the easiest MS exam I've ever taken (not that I took a lot of them though), but it will probably hold more weight than any of the MTAs.
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    Only MTA I've taken is the OS exam. It has to be the most pointless exam I have ever taken and would be something I would expect a standard user to be able to pass.
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    The MTA certs are geared towards students, they're not even entry level certs. The Security Fundamentals covers things like "What is a trojan?" and "What is a honeypot?", I'm glad I got some to flesh out my resume but the only thing they got going for them is that they were free.
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    I think that entry level certs have more value when you are starting out, but they will lose their value as you gain experience and obtain higher level certifications. Looking over the material for the MTA's they look fairly basic and I think that the CompTIA certs would give a better ROI.

    For the beginner in IT, the entry level certs are useful as they build a foundation for you. I wouldn't expect someone who has never touched a server to start with say, the 640 exam.
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    I've never taken an MTA exam, but just going by the price I'd say they are not worth it.
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    The MTA makes sense if you're a desktop guy who has had little to no experience on a server. It allows you to get a certification and maybe approach your employer and say "could I do something with Server". In certain environments, especially larger enterprises, the jump between desktop support and server support it a tough one to make. For some tech's taking the MCTS or MCSA is just too difficult without practical experience. This is sort of a stepping zone.

    If you have any real Server experience, it's really pointless to take these things.
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    I've taken MTA: Security, Server Admin and OS as part of WGU's curriculum and they are very different from each other in terms of difficulty. The OS exam was a joke. The Security exam was not bad but the ROI would be better served taking Security +. The Server Admin exam on the other hand was pretty hard. Now granted I have no real Admin skills, but I still found it the most difficult out of the three. Would I take them if they weren't a part of WGU's curriculum? No I would not.
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    I feel the opposite. The Server MTA was a joke because very little of it was Server specific. The Windows OS had more Server stuff in it with regards to APP-V and remote deployments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by djfunz View Post
    I've taken MTA: Security, Server Admin and OS as part of WGU's curriculum and they are very different from each other in terms of difficulty. The OS exam was a joke. The Security exam was not bad but the ROI would be better served taking Security +. The Server Admin exam on the other hand was pretty hard. Now granted I have no real Admin skills, but I still found it the most difficult out of the three. Would I take them if they weren't a part of WGU's curriculum? No I would not.
    I'm thinking about enrolling to this school. Has it been worth it so far?
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    was looking for a discussion as to whether MTA cert is worth having but I guess most people here sees it as an academic certification. Was thinking of taking 98-366 and 367 but I think I'll just go with CCNA R&S and SEC.
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    Would you pursue an MTA Certification if it was offered free at a local library even if not required for, say, a college course or career advancement? I imagine it'd be a good opportunity to "brush up" for higher-level professionals, and a good bridge to higher-level certifications for "aspiring technologists".
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    If it's free go for it. My college institute was handing away free MTA vouchers so i took 98-366 even though i had MCSA already complete. Why not?
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    If your wanting to focus on a Microsoft cert route I would say so. Like others have said they are a good introduction to technology and to bridge gaps. Id say they are probably equal to CompTIA in terms of knowledge/content now. They aren't very expensive either and of course they are not vendor neutral
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    Thanks doubleo and Entmta! Great points. MTA Certifications do seem more useful for people starting out in a Microsoft technology pathway, but it's good to know that accessible MTA exams at the library would also appeal to some people with higher level knowledge as well. I work for King County Library System in Washington State and we're already offering free access to study materials and resources for MOS exams; we hope to do the same for MTA exams. Thanks!
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