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    Seems to be a lot of negative feedback on the quality of Dec CISA exams. It will be interesting to see just how many of us pass.
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    I heard that associates who are sure to pass start getting the results earlier. Is this true? I am not sure how early. Anyone got any e-mail "pass" notification?
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    No, there is no evidence that I've seen that it is true. Previous experience is that results are released simultaneously world wide. If history is an indicator, the results will be released in the first week of February. My money is on Feb 1 . Other predictions so far is:

    bmac - Feb 8
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    Along with Paul, I haven't heard of anything that suggest people get results early like that, only that everyone gets them at pretty much the same time (at least the same day) worldwide.
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    According to my local ISACA rep, there is a chance your local chapter could release some early indications of scores during their monthly chapter meeting. In their RapidFire presentation, for the month of January, they often list some of the high scorers for the chapter. If you happen to have been one of them, that would be a pretty good indication that you passed. It won't give you a score, but you could safely assume you passed. However, this is contingent on how late in January your local chapter is hosting their monthly meeting. My chapter is on the 17th, so it's too early to tell. I'm told ISACA generally doesn't have scores ready to go until about 10 days before true release. So if your local monthly chapter meeting is in the last few days of January, you might stand a chance.
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    ISACA keeps asking me to submit questions - maybe I will after all the troubles people have...
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    I remember when reading the guidelines on question creation, the most complicated part was figuring what rubricing means. Maybe that's why all the CISA questions look like its for a different cert
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    I completely agree with all of the feedback here and the randomness that was the CISA exam. The exam proctors gave us an email to complain about exam questions but there was no way for us to indicate which questions require review. I passed this information on through their Exam Survey they sent out.

    I'm betting on Feb 1st @ 4:45pm.
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    Almost time for results... Good Luck! I am going to try my hand with IASCA soon. I already registered for Jun 13 exam.
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    I have asked ISACA whether they have a more accurate date for results other than approx 8 weeks. They responded and said hopefully the first week of February. This is still the 8 week point so no further forward on that. Oh well, not too long to go now.
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    Thanks for checking bmac. It sounds like the standard ISACA response . And given that Feb 1 falls on a Friday, that could be 1 or 2 weeks from now. I'm still holding out that it will be Feb 1 if previous years were an indicator.

    Good luck everyone.
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    Can't wait for CRISC results, it was a very hard exam for me so i really hope that I did well. I don't understand though why it takes all that long time to get the results. Waiting is really hard....
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    Default Have they ever released the results early?

    Like week 7? Week 8 would be next Saturday.
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    Taken these dates from previous threads.

    exam date was 14.06.2008, results announced on 22.07.2008

    exam date was 12.12.2009, results announced on 29.01.2010
    exam date was 12.06.2010, results announced on 13.08.2010

    exam date was 11.12.2010, results announced on 28.01.2011
    exam date was 11.06.2011, results announced on 02.08.2011
    exam date was 10.12.2011, results announced on 03.02.2012

    I think you might be right, Paul78. Going on lasts years results day, this years will be the 1st Feb (depending on time zones).
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    Quote Originally Posted by za3bour View Post
    Can't wait for CRISC results, it was a very hard exam for me so i really hope that I did well. I don't understand though why it takes all that long time to get the results. Waiting is really hard....
    You have to figure that they only administer the exams twice per year (well, more often in 2013, but still). They have every single individual trying to certify, or sometimes recertify, all at the same time, for every ISACA exam, for every country the exams are administered in. This somewhat small organization received all those results at once, and has to review and process each form individually.

    I can likely assume the next comment will be something similar to "Then why don't they make the exam electronic, like ISC2 did with the CISSP!?"... The answer there is simply cost. The financials associated with building your own, or contract with someone like Pearson Vue, is a very expensive endeavor. ISACA is a not for profit organization, but they are also not a charity. They have to "break even" at year end. This means that any additional costs associated with administering the exams get passed onto you and I. If you thought the exam costs were high now, give them a peak with the those administrative costs added in.
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    As the resident TE conspiracy theorist, I assert that the wait is part of the exam and to determine if you have the mettle to be ISACA certified and they deduct points whenever you call or send email to ISACA asking for a date.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul78 View Post
    As the resident TE conspiracy theorist, I assert that the wait is part of the exam and to determine if you have the mettle to be ISACA certified and they deduct points whenever you call or send email to ISACA asking for a date.
    Why isn't this man working for the secret service!?!?!?!?

    Genius.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CISPhD View Post
    I can likely assume the next comment will be something similar to "Then why don't they make the exam electronic, like ISC2 did with the CISSP!?"... The answer there is simply cost. The financials associated with building your own, or contract with someone like Pearson Vue, is a very expensive endeavor.
    While I agree with this, CISA certifications are not free. In comparison to the ISC2, here are my findings:

    ISC2 Exam
    CISSP CBT Exam - $599
    AMF dues $85/yr x 3 years = $255.00
    Total cost: $854 (3 years)

    ISACA Member
    CISA Exam (ISACA Member) - $410 (early registration)
    Apply for CISA Certification Fee- $50
    ISACA Membership - $135 + Chapter dues ($25) - $160 x 3 years = $480.00
    AMF dues - $45/yr x 3 years = $135

    Total cost: $1074 minimum (3 years)

    Non-ISACA Member
    CISA Exam (Non ISACA Member) - $585 (early registration)
    Apply for CISA Certification Fee - $50
    AMF dues - $85/yr x 3 years = $255.00

    Total cost: $890 (3 years)

    Obviously each certification comes with its benefits, this is strictly for a 3 year certification.
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    @pktlabs - interesting comparison. But I wonder what each group's revenue and expense budgets are like. Maybe ISC simply has more members and can scale better to cover expenses. I think both are 501c nonprofits so that info should be available.


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    Why isn't this man working for the secret service!?!?!?
    Yeah, either that or clown in a circus
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    Quote Originally Posted by pktlabs View Post
    Obviously each certification comes with its benefits, this is strictly for a 3 year certification.
    It's a three-year reporting period to collect CPE hours for maintaining the certifications, so also factor in the money spent to collect those CPE hours (such as, attending InfoSec conferences and workshops, buying books and magazine subscriptions, paying professional organization chapter dues, time doing volunteer work, etc.).
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    Quote Originally Posted by CISPhD View Post
    You have to figure that they only administer the exams twice per year (well, more often in 2013, but still). They have every single individual trying to certify, or sometimes recertify, all at the same time, for every ISACA exam, for every country the exams are administered in. This somewhat small organization received all those results at once, and has to review and process each form individually.

    I can likely assume the next comment will be something similar to "Then why don't they make the exam electronic, like ISC2 did with the CISSP!?"... The answer there is simply cost. The financials associated with building your own, or contract with someone like Pearson Vue, is a very expensive endeavor. ISACA is a not for profit organization, but they are also not a charity. They have to "break even" at year end. This means that any additional costs associated with administering the exams get passed onto you and I. If you thought the exam costs were high now, give them a peak with the those administrative costs added in.
    Thanks a lot, this was very informative indeed i appreciate your response, i think you are right since they are a non profit org. You are also right for me 500$ is expensive especially if i compare it to MS exams for example.

    I guess the wait is almost over, i am sure next week they will release them depending on history.
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    " The answer there is simply cost."
    This is not true, current process cost more than electronic version, but it is also more reliable and it minimizes risks of cheating, therefore protecting reputation of all holders of ISACA credentials.
    It was stated somewhere in Q&A by ISACA officials.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numberfive View Post
    " The answer there is simply cost."
    This is not true, current process cost more than electronic version, but it is also more reliable and it minimizes risks of cheating, therefore protecting reputation of all holders of ISACA credentials.
    It was stated somewhere in Q&A by ISACA officials.
    So do you mean to say that tests like PMP which are conducted in "electronic" format are succeptible to cheating? So, some of those credential holders could be cheaters? I somehow find difficult to believe this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iwantcisa View Post
    So do you mean to say that tests like PMP which are conducted in "electronic" format are succeptible to cheating? So, some of those credential holders could be cheaters? I somehow find difficult to believe this!
    I think any exam is susceptible to cheating whether it is electronic or not.
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    @iwantcisa - Unfortunately, yes, some credential holders are cheaters. That's just reality. You referenced the PMP; I actually had a conversation with a PMP holder about a year ago. I had asked him about his PMP and he casually mentioned that it was an easy exam because there were lots of dump resources available. And that in his chapter (I assume that there are local chapters of some sort), information was readily available. I think he detected the horror on my face so he prefaced that the PMP was more of a way for program managers to network professionally versus some acknowledgement of skill or experience.

    @numberfive - good point. I had a look at the ISACA and ISC2 annual reports. And I was quite surprised to see the amount of revenue (as I recall USD$45MM) that ISACA collects each year. ISACA is a much larger financial concern that I had ever suspected.

    I personally like the method that ISACA administers their testing. Their method give me a perception that somehow the ISACA exams are more "official".
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