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    Quote Originally Posted by beads View Post
    Most high level certificates require documented experience in order to sit for the exam.
    Just to be clear, you aren’t talking about expert certifications right? CCIE, GSE, the Juniper equivalent are all expert high level certifications, none of which require documented experience to sit/claim. Also, CISSP/CISA/CISM etc. all let you sit for the exam prior to having the experience and give a time frame you have to achieve and then get endorsed by somebody to claim the credential...although at times I question those that have been endorsed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechGuru80 View Post
    Just to be clear, you aren’t talking about expert certifications right?
    PMP and related project management certs require proof you have the relevant years of project management experience before you can even register for the exam - vetting of the experience is done via random selection where they will contact your employers and references to see if you are legit and if not, you lose the expensive registration fee.

    I suspect there are other high level certs that have this sort of barrier.
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    #53
    All this questions about whether to remove the certs, or the Master's or both or neither. Maybe just write a bunch of different resumes with the various permutations and send them out.

    One thing I've become convinced of in my years of work and looking for work is that there is no magic bullet to getting a job: what one potential employer hates, another will love, and there's often no way to know the particular biases and fetishes of that next potential employer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OctalDump View Post
    All this questions about whether to remove the certs, or the Master's or both or neither. Maybe just write a bunch of different resumes with the various permutations and send them out.

    Careful now, Octal.
    Giving such advice might get you labeled as "deceitful".

    lol
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    Thanks everyone for this great advice. I've decided to keep my degree on my resume and take off my certifications.
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    Did you ever say what certs they are? If they are entry level certs i.e. A/N/S+, etc, then don't take them off.
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    #57
    I'm running into a similar problem with having at least sufficient credentials, but not enough experience. Plus I've been unemployed for a while and it seems the longer one is unemployed, the harder it is to get back on the horse.
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    What roles are you trying to get and what is your experience?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedudeabides View Post
    I'm running into a similar problem with having at least sufficient credentials, but not enough experience. Plus I've been unemployed for a while and it seems the longer one is unemployed, the harder it is to get back on the horse.
    You are right about being unemployed for long time creating negative connotations. However job specific skills can help you get in. You should focus on getting hands on experience, if possible.
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    You are only as good as your weakest link. If you don't have experience, which is the most important piece of the formula you aren't much better off than others....

    From my painful experience, someone with 6 months experience is > than a masters and 10 certs with no experience.

    Degrees and Certs are "NICE TO HAVES" experience is a must.... I would recommend working short termed projects, like 3 week deployments or some project work. Parlay that into a contract and hopefully you'll be off to the races.....
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    I know that companies like Accenture take graduates in without any experience.

    I've seen other job posting like this, so have a look around.
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    Usually high turnover IT call centers will anyone with a pulse so you can start there if you want.
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