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    I worked for a MSP, biggest mistake of my life and glad I left haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberguypr View Post
    Am I the only one wondering what this means?

    OP, don't overthink it. This stuff happens and life goes on.
    *Hooks up DVI Cable*
    Oh crap, no video
    *Hooks up VGA Cable now as well*
    Success!
    Looks like it is working to me. Next computer!

    And OP, don't put it on your resume and don't sweat it. Their loss but keep in mind the first 90 days is a probational period in some states (like Florida) so always make sure everything you do is as perfect as you can until you get past that point.
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    I realized you're the same OP on the other thread, about choosing the library work or the msp.

    Sorry this happened. I'm in the job market too, so I feel for you.

    Would you be able to share what you would do differently, in hindsight? If you want.

    Your thread and others on the net has me seriously interviewing them also instead of asking questions just to ask (which I was sort of doing).

    Some important ones I try to get in:

    What projects do you have going on?

    What is the "typical" day like for this role?

    What's the best candidate for this role? (I'll have to find how this is specifically asked, but it was something along this line.)

    (Obviously, once you're in it could still be a different story. But we do our best to interview them also.)

    Thanks for sharing your story, and helping others like myself. So, if/when I do land a job, I think I'll continue job searching, at least for a few weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panther View Post
    I realized you're the same OP on the other thread, about choosing the library work or the msp.

    Sorry this happened. I'm in the job market too, so I feel for you.

    Would you be able to share what you would do differently, in hindsight? If you want.
    Yes, I can update this thread later this week or on the weekend, with a lessons learned/what would I do differently post.
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    MSPs are ruthless man (I work for one now). You need to walk in there having a really good foundation and willingness to get your hands dirty in everything and anything. Sorry it happened.

    You should write down everything you did and were asked to do when you were there. Research it all and see what you could have done different. Get an understanding of what was said versus what was expected and you'll be better off next time
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    Quote Originally Posted by blatini View Post
    MSPs are ruthless man (I work for one now). You need to walk in there having a really good foundation and willingness to get your hands dirty in everything and anything. Sorry it happened.

    You should write down everything you did and were asked to do when you were there. Research it all and see what you could have done different. Get an understanding of what was said versus what was expected and you'll be better off next time
    I agree!

    Hang in there buddy. I was let go from an MSP after two months!! Some are usually more small, tech focused, and lack basic business management skills. And are probably too fast paced and time crunched to train you properly and keep you afloat.
    My MSP kept techs from one recruitment firm and sacked all the ones from another one. Apparently the first one, cut a deal with them and helped them pay their salaries. It's just how it is when a company loses a client; they sack the newest cheapest hires.

    You don't wanna work for an MSP anyways lol. Worst decision of my life. I don't regret my time there as I learned way more than anyone could in an enterprise environment. I got vmware exposure, server2012 exposure, and firewall exposure.

    If you want to return to an MSP in the future, make sure you're at a mid level. That way you can own projects, etc.

    Keep the job off the resume. If it was through a contract like mine was, I just list it with "(contract)" on my resume as people know contracts are short lived.
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    Why are MSP's bad? I'm just curious. Sometimes it's not you, it's them. You could do every right in the book and you'd still be canned.
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    They're Not all bad.
    They're Not all good.

    It matters most on "what" you will actually be doing.

    If they have you "working the phones", then it's probably gonna be a rough experience.
    If you are currently unemployed... then not much to lose.
    But if you already have a job.... maybe it's wiser to decline.

    I work at an MSP; (landed a role on their NOC).
    Craaaazy exp.
    fo reals

    It's basically like going to a boot-camp.
    1 week here = 2 weeks in enterprise.

    But i plan to GTFO next summer.
    The pay is meh, the Expectations are daunting, but the EXP is ridiculous :]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrak View Post
    *Hooks up DVI Cable*
    Oh crap, no video
    *Hooks up VGA Cable now as well*
    Success!
    Looks like it is working to me. Next computer!

    And OP, don't put it on your resume and don't sweat it. Their loss but keep in mind the first 90 days is a probational period in some states (like Florida) so always make sure everything you do is as perfect as you can until you get past that point.
    It sort of went like that....

    We set up his computer to support two monitors, but he had three monitors. We had to get a video card to support his three monitors. Infact, anyone that need more than two monitors needed a video card.

    So I set up his computer to support two video cards. We had to get the video cards that needed to be purchased approved by management. This took a few days..

    The video cards came in and the guy that I was working on the project with decided we should install the video card without telling our supervisor.

    Well I connected two video cables to one monitor by accident. It's hard to connect any sort of cabling backup up again once someone has all their stuff setup up. I made sure all monitors were working before I left, but my manager was angry.

    I won't put this job my resume.
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    Hey Guys Well I'm not in any hurry to go back to an MSP.

    They seem like they want mid level enterprise experience, but they only want to pay just a tad above minimum wage.

    Do I bring up my job loss/separation to a recruiter? Sometimes they ask what have you been doing? Why didn't find a a job ect?
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    What were you doing prior to the MSP job?
    Perhaps that could be what you bring up instead of the MSP job.
    Some careers experts may have a better idea though.
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    You don't have to tell the recruiter anything. Just say, you have been searching for a job.
    Never let your fear decide your fate....
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    Just wait until we're in an economic recession, happens all the time. You where the easiest to let go, last in first out is pretty normal, especially if your in the trial period or are in a contractor/temp to hire situation.
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    Last in first out.
    First in first out.

    So i guess somewhere the middle is the best haha.

    Its true though. I've seen the newest and oldest tenure people being let go during budget cuts.
    Newest person because they are the easiest.
    Oldest because the are the most expensive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basic85 View Post
    Why are MSP's bad? I'm just curious. Sometimes it's not you, it's them. You could do every right in the book and you'd still be canned.
    Maybe it's the tight SLAs because the MSP I worked for could face financial penalties if the overall SLAs were broken.

    Most companies use SLAs but if they're not a MSP then if a SLA is broken, it doesn't matter that much compared to a MSP who has a contract with their client.
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    You bounce back by getting back on the horse when you fall off. I was let go after being on the job for 7.5 years. I was down on myself and I questioned what the cause of it was. Was it due to poor management? Yes it was. Was there blame on me as well? Absolutely. I collected myself, and kicked it back into gear the next day. I had a job a couple weeks later.

    The key is understanding and rebounding. Understand why you were let go. Its easy to blame the company. Its harder to look deeper into yourself and find what fault you had. Make adjustments, and get out there and look for your next job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nisseki View Post
    Maybe it's the tight SLAs because the MSP I worked for could face financial penalties if the overall SLAs were broken.

    Most companies use SLAs but if they're not a MSP then if a SLA is broken, it doesn't matter that much compared to a MSP who has a contract with their client.
    Depends if you are on the internal or external team. Internal (where I am) does deal with some of that (tracking time, other bs). What we deal with a lot is our boss coming back from some conference with a new idea that we can implement internally and then sell to customers. Who figures that out? You got it. Our big team of 3. There are a lot of times we will be working on something and then something BETTER will come along too. This is on top of your normal IT. Updates, day to day tickets, network outages, etc.

    It can be overwhelming but it's helped me out a lot with time management. I have fallen behind in my studies but I think I am more versed in various things (generally not what you want to further your career... but I am enjoying it atm)
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