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    There are a few organizations out there doing coding if you look. Search for Optum, Intelligent Medical Objects, IBM Health and Meditech to name a few off the top of my head.

    There are occasionally some remote work opportunities but IMO and Optum are both in the North suburbs of Chicago, Allscripts is in the St. Louis area, etc. It all depends on what you want to do and where you want to work.

    You need to be very proactive in IT, period. If your looking for a job I hear McDonald's is always hiring. Looking for a lifetime career with an interesting position then by all means commit to an IT field but an IT career requires considerable commitment.

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    Op’s very first post on a thread said he had a job as a computer programmer.

    I am now confident this is not real.
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    I work as a laptop technician been almost year in job. Previously 10 years ago I worked as a Php/ apprentice programmer. It probably was a mistake to leave that job and go get a teaching license and degree... but I discouraged with being paid just $10/hr and I felt very inferior to other programmers. They were a lot smarter than me. They had Computer Science and Engineering degrees and I just had a CIS degree. They did have though 5-20 years of experience as developers. I just compared myself to them and thought if I couldn't do what they could then I was no good.

    I made a lot mistakes and got yelled at a few times, felt bad about it, felt stupid. I also had a doomsday outlook. I saw on news about H1b visa workers taking jobs away from programmers and they said in news all jobs in IT were going overseas. So I figured better get trained in something else, my job will eventually go to Asia. My prediction was wrong and I listened too much to the news back then.
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    Sounds like you put more energy into comparing yourself to others instead of improving yourself. Instead of worrying about getting paid $10/hour (which you admitted you were worth only that much being not so great at programming), you should have been improving yourself.

    Degrees don't make you smarter. They might give you more knowledge, but that doesn't make you smarter nor does it mean you will be able to do something better. You have to actually do it for a while to get better at it and actually put the effort into learning to get better.

    Given what you have told us, it sounds like no matter how many degrees you have, no matter what line of work you get into, you will always just compare yourself to others, see yourself as inferior and then lay down and cry about it.

    This is a psychological problem and no amount of schooling or crying will fix it. The only solution is therapy and that is not going to be quick or cheap. Stop sinking money into education that gets you nowhere and get a therapist.
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    You went back after a technical degree for a MS in education, which I doubt you ever used, then your CDL, now you're talking about medical coding going along with IT? I realize you seem to have no confidence in your abilities and can't make up your mind but if you were in front of me I'd literally want to grab your shoulders and shake sense into you.
    I do tend to have a negative personality, but I think the MS in Education has actually helped me a lot. I have gotten many interviews for teaching jobs just never landed a teaching job. Landed subbing jobs and a job as a paraprofessional. I got more interviews for teaching jobs then I did for computer jobs until I landed my current job as a laptop technician.

    What criticism I have heard on here is actually the exact same thing my wife tells me. Stay at one job, don't be bouncing around, pick a field and stick with it, have more self confidence in yourself ... lol.

    I think I will work on getting my CCENT while I am laptop tech and also work on getting licensed in middle school math or middle school science. In my state to get licensed in another subject is easy once you get a teaching license, all you have to do is pass the test. I have looked at the licensing tests for both middle school science and middle school math and both tests look not too hard to pass, besides I wouldn't mind refreshing my memory on Algebra, Geometry, and Trigonometry. That would qualify me for a lot more teaching jobs besides what I am already licensed for, SPED.

    I always had a game plan of combining tech jobs with something else anyway, since many are contract jobs although my current job as laptop technician is a permanent position with pretty good benefits, 401k and overtime offered.

    My plan was to teach during school year and then over summer to take a temp computer job for extra cash. I could always do truck driving and then take time off from truck driving and work temp computer jobs for a few months when not truck driving. That is an idea, only thing blocking me from doing that is wife she doesn't want me away from home.

    I always wanted something medical not just for more job options for the fun of it, I like being diverse. In my state you can become an EMT over the course of summer, a couple months I think. Other states require more school to become an EMT, but in my state you can do it in a very short period of time. It cost's very little to go through the training and I knew a buddy who was going to help me get an EMT license a while back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Child View Post
    1. I think I will work on getting my CCENT while I am laptop tech and also work on getting licensed in middle school math or middle school science.

    2. I could always do truck driving and then take time off from truck driving and work temp computer jobs for a few months when not truck driving.

    3. In my state you can become an EMT over the course of summer, a couple months I think. Other states require more school to become an EMT, but in my state you can do it in a very short period of time. It cost's very little to go through the training and I knew a buddy who was going to help me get an EMT license a while back.
    Here we go again.

    Just for the record, what state do you live in? If something happened to me and you were my EMT, I would run to the hospital for fear of you deciding to become a stand-up comedian instead of providing me medical treatment.
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    I know the Jack of Trades of approach is probably detrimental, but maybe it is just my personality. I like to know a little of everything. I actually was a Biology Major before I switched to CIS. I think more like an economist the more jobs I can do the better off I am. I see great security in that. I rather have less money, but always have a job and guaranteed employment.

    I admit I am not the brightest guy I was diagnosed with dyslexia as a kid. My mother wasn't very bright either 950 on SAT, Masters in Nursing but she made 80k a year as a nurse. I know truck driving you can always have a job regardless how bad you are. One of my dad's buddy been a trucker all his life, all kinds of accidents, been fired like 10 times in his life from trucking jobs, he has an extensive criminal record, yet he has no problem finding jobs as a truck driver and being employed as a truck driver. Same thing with nursing. My mother was a manger over nurses and she told me they needed nurses so badly that as long as the nurse had a pulse they wouldn't fire her regardless how bad she was at her job. She said she worked with a lot of really awful nurses who screwed up a lot on the job, but the hospital never fired them because they needed nurses so badly... I hear the same thing from EMT's at least in my state.... that is not the case with computer jobs especially higher paying ones from what I hear, very cut throat, easy to get fired. So that is why I like trucking and Nursing, see more security there.

    I always wanted to combine computer jobs with something else. Teaching, medical, trucking... because computer jobs are often temp contract work... I might decide in the long run to do truck driving part of the year and the other part do temp computer work. If computer jobs don't work, no big deal you learn and become better and just hop on the truck until the next temp computer job comes a long.
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    I think you are finally on to something. Why not be a truck driving EMT nurse who of course teches and does medical coding and who also programs Cisco stuff while working in accounting at a correctional facility. Of course this is all next to the oil field and you moonlight there too.
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    Moon Child, I really think you need to discover yourself. Have you tried meditating?
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    Ever taken a poorly implemented cert exam before? Where the questions you're dealt don't accurately measure your actual knowledge of the material? Why place so much faith in SAT and IQ exams then?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._with_dyslexia
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    Moon Child logic.... i knew a buddy of a buddy who made 80k as truck driver,
    my mother as a nurse made 80k,
    my EMT friend will help me get licensed
    I can be a teacher and have job security if i get a teaching jib
    I can do medical coding and teach math but I'm not very smart
    I have low IQ, low SAT scores and dyslexia but I have a Master
    I started biology but then switched to do computers
    After 10 years as nurse i could probably make 80 if i get hired.
    After 10 years of trucking i will always have a job.
    I know what I'm doing but everyone including my wife tell me I'm wrong, i still think I'm right
    I try to diversify my skills and experience in different unreleated fields instead of diversifying my experience in the field of IT or teaching or nursing or anything else.
    I'm comfortable with low paying jobs.
    But i want a high paying 80k job, but I'm comfortable making less if i have to work part time.
    Maybe i can spend 2 months in each possible profession to make sure i have a job.
    I don't care that 100% of the people in this forum have started with less money and have increased their earnings over time.
    I dont care that most of the people here at this forum aversge at least 50k-60k
    I still think I'm right
    i like to be prepared for the Job Armageddon, i can fall bsck to my unskilled job
    I like to have a bag full of professions in case the world ends and Y2K happens all over again and teachers and EmTS and nurses and truckers will be in demand but IT is cut throat.


    This goes on and on and on until infinity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFORCE View Post
    Moon Child logic.... i knew a buddy of a buddy who made 80k as truck driver,
    my mother as a nurse made 80k,
    my EMT friend will help me get licensed
    I can be a teacher and have job security if i get a teaching jib
    I can do medical coding and teach math but I'm not very smart
    I have low IQ, low SAT scores and dyslexia but I have a Master
    I started biology but then switched to do computers
    After 10 years as nurse i could probably make 80 if i get hired.
    After 10 years of trucking i will always have a job.
    I know what I'm doing but everyone including my wife tell me I'm wrong, i still think I'm right
    I try to diversify my skills and experience in different unreleated fields instead of diversifying my experience in the field of IT or teaching or nursing or anything else.
    I'm comfortable with low paying jobs.
    But i want a high paying 80k job, but I'm comfortable making less if i have to work part time.
    Maybe i can spend 2 months in each possible profession to make sure i have a job.
    I don't care that 100% of the people in this forum have started with less money and have increased their earnings over time.
    I dont care that most of the people here at this forum aversge at least 50k-60k
    I still think I'm right
    i like to be prepared for the Job Armageddon, i can fall bsck to my unskilled job
    I like to have a bag full of professions in case the world ends and Y2K happens all over again and teachers and EmTS and nurses and truckers will be in demand but IT is cut throat.


    This goes on and on and on until infinity.
    Lol that is actually funny the way you put it and your right and do have a good point. That actually helps me a little reading that thank you.

    I just will see homeless people on the streets with no job and begging for food and I have a terrible fear of that happening to me. I will get bad nightmares about being homeless one day, wake up in night sweats. I have always had a job my entire adult life, never been unemployed, got a lot refrence letters from past employers and teachers I worked with, but still it is an awful fear I have.

    I just feel the way to guarantee never getting homeless or unemployed is to be trained in so many different jobs that it will never happen to me. I do feel stupid sometimes I scored a 110 on IQ tests in middle school and was told had dyslexia as a kid , got only a 24 on ACT and like a 1050 on SAT so I feel really sensitive about that, but I guess that isn't so bad.

    I have no problem landing interviews it's just when people see me in person... barely over 5' foot tall and have a hard time finding a suit that fits me properly for Interviews they don't hire me because of how small I am. Had 5 teaching interviews in 2 weeks and an interview with Comcast before left trucking and went back to old computer job. Comcast said I passed an online logic assessment test did well on it and invited me to an in-person interview for a Network/ cable installer position with Comcast, but flubbed up that interview they never called back.
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    I think most posters are borderline banging their heads against a wall at this point. You know what makes you really employable? Being really good at your job, not being crappy at 5 different jobs. As everyone else has said, 10x over, make up your mind, you can't do everything, and if you try you can't do everything well. The idea that computer jobs are all short term contracts is laughable. I want to feel like we're being trolled.

    When one person tells you that you're doing it wrong, fine, maybe they don't understand. When EVERYONE tells you're doing it wrong, you're probably wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Child View Post
    Lol that is actually funny the way you put it and your right and do have a good point. That actually helps me a little reading that thank you.

    I just will see homeless people on the streets with no job and begging for food and I have a terrible fear of that happening to me. I will get bad nightmares about being homeless one day, wake up in night sweats. I have always had a job my entire adult life, never been unemployed, got a lot refrence letters from past employers and teachers I worked with, but still it is an awful fear I have.

    I just feel the way to guarantee never getting homeless or unemployed is to be trained in so many different jobs that it will never happen to me. I do feel stupid sometimes I scored a 110 on IQ tests in middle school and was told had dyslexia as a kid , got only a 24 on ACT and like a 1050 on SAT so I feel really sensitive about that, but I guess that isn't so bad.

    I have no problem landing interviews it's just when people see me in person... barely over 5' foot tall and have a hard time finding a suit that fits me properly for Interviews they don't hire me because of how small I am. Had 5 teaching interviews in 2 weeks and an interview with Comcast before left trucking and went back to old computer job. Comcast said I passed an online logic assessment test did well on it and invited me to an in-person interview for a Network/ cable installer position with Comcast, but flubbed up that interview they never called back.
    I think at this point you need to see a therapist, psychologists or someone qualified to get to the bottom of yout situation.
    Now you bringing height into the topic, everytime you post its something new that you are having a problem with.
    Next you will say your name is not very popular.

    Everything in the world seems like a problem you can't deal with. Seriously, you can't find a suit? In 2017 you can't find a suit?


    But like Danielm7 said, I'd also like to beleive we are being trolled because this is just too funny and ridiculous to be true. But then again theres some weird stuff in this world.
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    Troall post is troall.

    And the correct spelling is banned?
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    ***** ---> correct spelling

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    haha. looks like you're right. What a strange word to censor!
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    This thread makes my blood boil and I absolutely love it! At this point i'm 50/50 on tro|| vs. person with the most severe inferiority complex on the face of this earth. Therapy an medication are not a bad thing if done under the care of a properly trained professional, preferably one that doesn't do 100 other jobs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyberguypr View Post
    This thread makes my blood boil and I absolutely love it! At this point i'm 50/50 on tro|| vs. person with the most severe inferiority complex on the face of this earth. Therapy an medication are not a bad thing if done under the care of a properly trained professional, preferably one that doesn't do 100 other jobs.
    I'm cracking up everytime I read this thread. I think in this thread he forgot to mention that he also worked as a security guard for a few years.

    I wonder, where does he find the time to do all these jobs, switch to so many fields and pursue certifications.

    For someone who thinks very lowly of themselves he sure does have a lot of "courage" and brain power to go back to class.

    Unless he is like 60 years old I don't know how he has managed all those jobs, that or he has some time machine to go back in time to do all that.
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    I'm cracking up everytime I read this thread. I think in this thread he forgot to mention that he also worked as a security guard for a few years.

    I wonder, where does he find the time to do all these jobs, switch to so many fields and pursue certifications.

    For someone who thinks very lowly of themselves he sure does have a lot of "courage" and brain power to go back to class.

    Unless he is like 60 years old I don't know how he has managed all those jobs, that or he has some time machine to go back in time to do all that.
    Thats right I did. I actually got invited to go through a police training/ interview process oh a couple years ago? Maybe 4 years ago for the Chicago Heights police department. Saw an add in newspaper they were hiring. Minimum qualifications was a bachelor's degree and preferred previous experience in security or some LE experience. They called me in a big room with oh about 100 people. Said every week lots people be eliminated and someone asked how many people were they going hire, the police officer said maybe 1 or 2 and everyone else will be on a call list.

    I guess didn't have enough self confidence to think would make it and didn't show up to day 2. Standing a little over 5' tall and these great big 6'4" muscular guys there I figured they wanting to hire a little 5' small guy to be a police officer was zero to none. Got invited to several interviews for corrections officers too, got interviewed by great big 6'4 guys with python size arms. I figured they weren't interested in me being in corrections when they saw me in person standing barely over 5' tall. Maybe just was overanalyzing the situation.

    It might been longer than a couple years ago, maybe 4 years ago right before turned 35 in November I'm now 39. I thought you had to be no older than 35 to join the police department, but I am friends with a lot cops and in some police departments they have no age restrictions. One cop I know said he could help get me in county police, told me a 50 yr old man just joined his department made it through the police academy. I guess just didn't have any self confidence and didn't bother to apply.

    I do watch a lot of cop shows drives my wife nuts. Watch detectives solving murder crimes like Forensic Files for example. She can't understand how I can sit there calmly and not be bothered by blood and guts and gruesome murder scenes. I always found police work interesting and always had great respect for many friends of mine who are police officers, looked up to them as my heroes. Read probably about 40+ books by Agatha Christie as a kid.
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    Why hasn't someone locked this thread already?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Child View Post
    Thats right I did. I actually got invited to go through a police training/ interview process oh a couple years ago? Maybe 4 years ago for the Chicago Heights police department. Saw an add in newspaper they were hiring. Minimum qualifications was a bachelor's degree and preferred previous experience in security or some LE experience. They called me in a big room with oh about 100 people. Said every week lots people be eliminated and someone asked how many people were they going hire, the police officer said maybe 1 or 2 and everyone else will be on a call list.

    I guess didn't have enough self confidence to think would make it and didn't show up to day 2. Standing a little over 5' tall and these great big 6'4" muscular guys there I figured they wanting to hire a little 5' small guy to be a police officer was zero to none. Got invited to several interviews for corrections officers too, got interviewed by great big 6'4 guys with python size arms. I figured they weren't interested in me being in corrections when they saw me in person standing barely over 5' tall. Maybe just was overanalyzing the situation.

    It might been longer than a couple years ago, maybe 4 years ago right before turned 35 in November I'm now 39. I thought you had to be no older than 35 to join the police department, but I am friends with a lot cops and in some police departments they have no age restrictions. One cop I know said he could help get me in county police, told me a 50 yr old man just joined his department made it through the police academy. I guess just didn't have any self confidence and didn't bother to apply.

    I do watch a lot of cop shows drives my wife nuts. Watch detectives solving murder crimes like Forensic Files for example. She can't understand how I can sit there calmly and not be bothered by blood and guts and gruesome murder scenes. I always found police work interesting and always had great respect for many friends of mine who are police officers, looked up to them as my heroes. Read probably about 40+ books by Agatha Christie as a kid.
    To the OP:

    You should listen to your wife. Pick a career and stick with it!!

    If you want to be a truck driver, then fine be a truck driver. You want to be EMT, then go be an EMT.

    If you keep flipping flopping careers, it might take a toll on your marriage.

    Stop comparing yourself to others, this is a contest you can not win. Be the best version of yourself that you can be.
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    I do watch a lot of cop shows drives my wife nuts. Watch detectives solving murder crimes like Forensic Files for example. She can't understand how I can sit there calmly and not be bothered by blood and guts and gruesome murder scenes. I always found police work interesting and always had great respect for many friends of mine who are police officers, looked up to them as my heroes. Read probably about 40+ books by Agatha Christie as a kid.

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    Lets be real for a minute.

    It's probably ADD and anxiety causing a lot of these issues. I hate to get personal about it, but it's the honest truth. There's plenty of treatment options for ADD/Anxiety that will be life changing for you.

    There are other options if you want to stay in the medical field like x-ray tech, etc. Yes, nursing is always in demand, but do you really want to see things most people shouldn't? Sometimes it takes hitting rock bottom in order for them to realize a major change needs to be made.
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