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    Default Resume help

    I am a somewhat new member to this site, and I just want to thank everyone for all the posts and information that you have shared throughout the forums. I have taken a CCNA focused course through my college in the fall, but I never had the time to actually take the CCNA exam. Instead our final dealt with a hands on practical in our lab dealing with some real world situations. Adding to my exposure this spring, I took a course focused on CCSP topics. Anyways, now that it is summer, I am have been studying at frantic pace in order to grasp some of the content we were forced to skip over (ISDN and some small details about the various CCNA topics which we had to push through). Your website as really helped me in several ways.

    After reading this post, I became quite excited due to the fact that I have been also trying to perfect my resume as of recent. The first thing I am looking to do is remove my Objective, and fix up my summary of qualifications. Once I resolve those two issues, I am then looking to rework my wording of my various jobs/experiences. Any help or critiques you could offer would be much appreciated! I really need to fix this resume up! It is all in 8 font except for the name of course. With my new internship this summer, it will just about go over the two page mark. Is this ok? Should I enlarge the font and take up two entire pages? Should a 21 year old college student have over 2 pages of a resume? Thank you again. Back to studying for this CCNA, I am panicking about this and the CCNA! I really need to relax soon, too bad my internship starts in 12 days! I hope this all is not too forward of me.

    P.S. Do not worry about the formating issues, everything is basically formated out to avoid confusion. The only problem with spacing is from line to line since it is squished on one page in 8 font and spaced at 1.15. I put networking as a section just because it was a class and I do not yet have my CCNA, if/when I get it should I remove that section?

    NAME
    __________________________________________________ ___________________________
    OBJECTIVE
    __________________________________________________ ___________________________
    Seeking an opportunity for a fall 2007 internship or job in any type of
    position relevant to the field of Information Technology. I am a very
    flexible worker and a quick learner. With combination of a firm technology
    and business education I believe I can fulfill any tasks assigned to me.
    __________________________________________________ ___________________________
    SUMMARY OF QUALIFICATIONS
    __________________________________________________ ___________________________
    Operating Systems:
    Windows (98, ME, XP, 2003, Vista), Linux, & Unix
    Networking:
    Routing Protocols (RIP, RIPv2, EIGRP, OSPF), Static Routing, VLSM Network
    Design, ACLS, DHCP, NAT, PAT, CHAP, PAP, Subnetting, Basic Security
    Practices, Cisco IOS, Cisco PixFirewalls, Cisco Routers, and Cisco Switches
    Software:
    Microsoft Office Suite (including Visio), Open Office Suite, Adobe
    Photoshop, ImageReady, & Dreamweaver
    Programming Knowledge:
    HTML, XML, XHTML, PHP, Visual Basic, CSS, Java, JavaScript
    Professional Training:
    Cisco Networking Academy Network Security I Curriculum (‘07), Cisco
    Networking Academy Network Security II Curriculum (‘07), & Cisco
    Networking Academy Wireless Communications Curriculum (‘07)
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    EDUCATION
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    Marist College, Poughkeepsie, NY
    Bachelor of Science Information Technology expected May 2008
    Minor in Information Systems Cumulative GPA 3.403
    Relevant Coursework:
    (to save on space and formating issues, i removed these courses)
    (courses are listed in groups of four in a table with no bordereds)
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    EXPERIENCE
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    IBM - Monarch E-Review Project, Poughkeepsie, NY 1/07 - 5/07
    Asst. Project Manager/ Backend Coder
    -Analyzed the IBM E-Review system in detail to understand its shortcomings
    -Designed a replacement web application in order to create a highly
    intuitive yet advanced web application
    -Utilized PHP and MYSQL in order to create a functional collaborative
    document review system
    Home & Office Group, Thomaston, CT 12/06 - 1/07
    IT Technician
    -Server & desktop assembly, maintenance, and repair
    -Supported both Linux and Windows based servers and desktops
    -Analyzed and implemented security policies for small to medium sized
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    Access Rehab Centers LLC., Waterbury, CT 11/06 – 12/06, 6/05 – 1/06
    [i]Administrative Assistant/IT Technician[i]
    -Compiled simplistic therapist databases using Microsoft Access and Excel.
    -Developed & implemented company wide HIPPA digital security policies.
    -Consulted with administration on WebMD Medical Manager negotiations.
    -Handled first line support for company servers, desktops, and LANs.
    Tri Tec Electronics, Inc., Waterbury, CT 4/03-1/05
    IT Technician
    -Windows network administration
    -Server & desktop assembly, maintenance, repair, and support
    -Designed websites by utilizing Macromedia Dreamweaver, Notepad, Adobe
    Photoshop, and PostNuke
    -Developed and implemented technology infrastructures customized to individual
    customers’ needs
    __________________________________________________ ___________________________
    HONORS & ACHIEVEMENTS
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    Marist College:
    -Dean’s List Recipient (Spring ‘07, Fall ‘06, Spring ‘06, & Fall ‘05)
    -Elected Lower West Cedar Resident Student Council President (‘06 – ‘07)
    -Appointed to the Student Life Council (‘06 – ‘07 & ‘04 – ‘05)
    -Elected Leo Hall Resident Student Council President (‘04 – ‘05)
    -Awarded merit based Marist College Scholarship (‘04)
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    REFERENCES
    __________________________________________________ ___________________________
    Available upon request.
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    #52
    hmm,

    honors and acheivements this maybe alright but i would kill it after not getting responses to the resume..

    the references upon request.. trust me they will ask for them no need to advertise

    it looks as if your going for the bulleted format of the resume. this sometimes can be hard to summarize as bullets look like job highlights thats just to me
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    It is not that I haven't gotten responses to the resume. I will be graduating next May, and I really just want to remove the junk, and fix the wording. If I am able to do this, I feel that i can really grab a company's attention.
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    Default Question about hobbies

    In part 12 of the guideline it said not to list hobbies (which I don't do anyway) but I find that when I'm asked that question I always have to make something up like "go camping and fishing" (which I have done so it's not a lie) The things I really like doing like going to Hip-Hop shows and Dee Jay competitions wouldn't quite sit well in corporate America, so I'd like to know what a good reply is to that question.
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    Very good post Keenon. If half the resumes I've skimmed over the last few months would have followed your suggested format, they might have actually gotten a call.

    Some examples to show what Keenon is talkng about;

    One resume had a section that went on for about 8 sentences, just to say he turned on the Windows firewall for all the pc's he supported at his company.

    I agree with Keenon again on the fact that'd I'd rather see a nicely formatted 2 page resume than a one page resume that's crammed so tight it looks like a page out of the King James version of the Holy Bible (I see this all the time).

    Try not to be so wordy with details. Instead of doing that, make the experience statements read so that they give a glimpse into the depth of your experience. In other words, make me want to find out more details about your experience, kinda like a very effective teaser. (Like the trailer for Fantastic 4 - Rise of the Silver Surfer ). It gets your resume pulled to the side, and it also makes for flowing and interesting conversation during the interview.

    DO NOT be to proud to get professional help. There are some very good resume writing firms that do an excellent job. And let's face it, most of us in technology aren't known for being the most effective and engaging writers. Start by taking ALL of Keenon's suggestions, come up with something pretty solid, then spend the 30 to 50 bucks or so to have it re-vamped by people who specialize in writing stuff that gets people's attention. I use these groups all the time when I have to prepare biographies, and profiles for speaking engagements (and consulting engagements). Often times I'll show up with 5 to 6 pages. I do this on purpose so they can get a good feel for what should be included. They return it to me in a 1 to 1-1/2 page version. If I like it, I keep it. If not, I send it back with modifications.

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    Default Grammar and Spelling!!!

    One thing that you should DEFINITELY NOT OVERLOOK is proper grammar and spelling!

    I see a lot of the postings in this thread, including the original post, that contain mis-use of words such as your vs. you're, their vs. there, etc.

    I hope you all are using spell-check on your resumes and having them proof-read by someone who is proficient in English.

    When I see postings, emails and resumes that contain such errors, it just makes me think that the person is not a well-rounded professional and it makes me doubt the person's communication skills.

    It's one thing to have an obvious typo (although in a resume that is not a good thing) but people can tell the difference between a typo and someone who obviously does not know the correct spelling of a word, or the correct use of grammar.
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    When applying for a position online from sites like monster. Sometimes they have a direct email to the recruiting manager or the company website.

    I want to know, when you send your resume. 1. Do you send it as an attachment or as part of the email. 2. Do you say anything on that email? for example, im sending this resume for this XXX position and i have attached it on this email.
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    i just send them the resume, unless i'm skeptical about the job and then i will email them a question or just give them a call
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    What order does everyone use for the sections in their resume?

    I use:

    Name / contact information
    Summary of Qualifications
    Professional Experience
    Certifications
    Educations
    Computer Skills

    Since I only have an Associates, but I have two higher level certifications (MCSE & CCEA), I will usually list the Certifications above Education. When I complete a BS, I will probably switch the sections.

    Am I missing any sections?
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    I've been working on my resume lately. My old one was very plain and straightforward. Browsing the templates in MS Word 2007 I found one that I liked the look of, but it's a little fancier using tables to make boxes and stuff. It also had check marks instead of bullet points, which I thought was a little too much so I changed them back to standard bullets.

    I just wanted to get opinions on whether it's better to be a little fancy so that you'll stand out, or just be plain and simple.

    Some people have told me that it's best to have 2 versions. A fancier one for human eyes, and then a simple plain text one for companies that scan them in and have some software sort through them. What do you think?

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    I don't think there's anything wrong with adding a little bit of style. Just make sure it doesn't take away from the readability or the professionalism of the document. A hot pink background with neon green text would stand out, but it probably wouldn't do so in the way you want.
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    It's not that outlandish. Here's where I found it:

    http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/te...3-1ef6472d4dbf

    I rearranged a few things and removed a few things and changed the check marks to standard bullets.

    I need to figure out a good summary to add. I'm in a little different situation than most people here I guess. I'm 32 years old and I've been working in a factory and have only a tiny bit of IT experience which was about 8 years ago. But, I just completed my AAS in IT and am now working on a BAS in Network Security and Forensics. I just got my Network+ and am basically just looking to get a foot in the door and get some experience.

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    Why do people use objectives?

    I have been contacted by numerous employers who recommended not using objectives in the resume.

    I for one think they don't look too good on a resume.
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    i see after all this time did no one use the info i originally posted? i have had the same resume format for a few years now and always get contacted by recruiters. once you get a good format( one that gets a flood of calls), keep it updated!
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    I think sometimes the idea of keeping a resume down to one or two pages is a bit over emphasized. I understand that you don't want to go overboard and have it binned before the person even starts reading, but at the same time this is perhaps the *only* thing they are going to see about you in order to evaluate you - if its me I'm damn well making sure that anything that could be important is on there. No hiring manager is going to throw away a good resume because its two and a half pages instead of two.

    I think two is best actually, not worth cramming everything into a single page (and it can be printed double sided so the reader wont need to attach the other page).

    The resume that got me my current job was four pages - and I was 21 at the time! I had good knowledge with Programming/Unix/Networking, and I wanted any IT guy to be able to instinctively see that I was a well rounded engineer. I was going through proper recruiters that I met and spoke to personally though and never uploaded to sites like Monster, which may be why it was slightly better received.

    I actually re-wrote my resume this morning, and was able to remove most of the cruft knowing that it won't be required for my next job, as I can just highlight my work experience instead. Got it down to two pages perfectly, though I definitely wouldn't feel bad if I want to tack on a third page in the near future.

    EDIT - Just as an anecdote, the longest Resume I've ever seen was 15 pages and included the guys piano lessons as a child. Now *that* was going too far (Although this is amazingly common from those applying from India)
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    What is the proper way to order the sections in a resume?

    Are the suggestions on the original post still valid today?
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    Not sure if this was covered already but if you are using Office 2k7 save your Resume as .doc instead of .docx.

    There are still HR folks who are running Office 2k3< without the compatibility pack. (mine included)
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    Very good point. I do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsutton View Post
    Not sure if this was covered already but if you are using Office 2k7 save your Resume as .doc instead of .docx.

    There are still HR folks who are running Office 2k3< without the compatibility pack. (mine included)
    I use the PDF/XPS add-on and also include a PDF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamik View Post
    I use the PDF/XPS add-on and also include a PDF.
    Don't forget a plain-text version! A lot of HR/recruiter systems will store your resume in that format, and by "pre" formatting it for them you can ensure that what you want to stick out does and that nothing is lost by some crappy DOC->TXT conversion process.
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    Thumbs up REsumes & CV's

    Hi, Thanks for your valuable suggestions, i would also like to share some resume building sites where you can create your own resume,

    http://www.interactiveresumebuilder.com
    http://www.eresumemaker.com
    http://www.resume-builder.net

    Best of luck !!
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    I have about a year of college credits in Comp Sci but never graduated, so my education section is a little lacking. Should I put my high school and diploma on there in addition to my one year of college? Or just one or the other?
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    you put both.. i have some college but no degree

    most see it as you started something but have yet to finish. this could be easily explained.. personal responsibilities, etc.. if you have plans to return let it be known.. no one can fault anyone for choosing the greater good over ones self
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    Function Resume Vs Chronological Resume, which one should a person use if they are wanting to move from a help desk position to another IT type position, like network admin or a sys admin?
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    good question.. as someone that has done it in the past. back then i used a chronological resume as i was still learning to write them back in 00. fast forward i use something that well is a pure hybrid all the best features of both without the limitations of either ( the perfect mutant)
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