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    Does anyone place there degree and/or certifications after their name in their signature block at work? Or do you just have your name and title? I always kept my degree and certs after my name at my last job, but it was needed due to the type of people I had to communicate with, but I am unsure if I will do it with my new job. Thanks!

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    I only have my name, company, and the two extensions I can be reached at. I see no need to advertise education and certifications, unless they were high level such as CCIE, CISSP, etc...
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    Only high level? Why post a CCIE, but not a MCSE? I know some certs are higher than others, but why post some, but not all? I see many signatures with B.A. or M.A. or M.B.A, with MCSE, A+, etc. after the name.
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    MCSE is no where near CCIE......simply put, you can't cheat your way to CCIE, and it doesn't garner as much respect. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done, I've just never seen it like that, at least not in an email signature......
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    There are only 2 achivements that should be placed in an email signatue:

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    Anything else is considered unprofessional.
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    I suppose it would depend on the context. Normally, I really only see people with a PhD or a Master's put down their degrees as part of their business cards or email signatures. As for certifications, I'd put down noteworthy certifications if it's a business address. As for which certs? I think it's a little narrow to say "one is better than another". If you're a windows administrator and you work for a large company, it wouldn't be out of place to have MCSE listed for inter-office email or for your official company address. If you're a Cisco admin, then put down what you are, CCNA/CCNP/CCIE, whatever. Same goes for RHCE, LPIC, A+, Net+, and anything else: if it's appropriate for your job role, then it goes either on your business card or on your email footer. (And if it's not your job role and you're putting it on your email to brag, then you have no business corresponding with the pros, anyway.)

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    I suppose it would depend on the context. Normally, I really only see people with a PhD or a Master's put down their degrees as part of their business cards or email signatures. As for certifications, I'd put down noteworthy certifications if it's a business address. As for which certs? I think it's a little narrow to say "one is better than another". If you're a windows administrator and you work for a large company, it wouldn't be out of place to have MCSE listed for inter-office email or for your official company address. If you're a Cisco admin, then put down what you are, CCNA/CCNP/CCIE, whatever. Same goes for RHCE, LPIC, A+, Net+, and anything else: if it's appropriate for your job role, then it goes either on your business card or on your email footer. (And if it's not your job role and you're putting it on your email to brag, then you have no business corresponding with the pros, anyway.)
    I agree...if you are an accounting technician processing pay or something, why place I.T. certifications in your signature when emailing? I've also spoke with some I.T. professionals about it locally and they said that it all depends on your job. If you are using the certification or degree in your job, then do it. They also stated that there are many who look down upon it because they might not have the certifications or degree to show in their signatures, or the level of certification or education isn't as high as others.

    I think it would cause jealousy or envy amongst a team if people think that way. It would definitely be bad if your peers think that you are doing it because you think you are better than others or something like that (management/team building classes ). Those who work hard to attain their education and certification should be proud and display what they have accomplished...especially when it correlates to their job. I've even seen some signatures where it had all of the icons fromt he various certifications as well.

    I am just wondering if those here in the community forum who do have many certifications/degrees, actually work in the field where you are communicationg with many outside I.T. vendors and companies through email, and have a big role in the I.T. Deapartment overall, place their professional certifications and education in their signature (work).
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    I don't see the need to put certs in the sig either. I know a few a work who do this, and they're morons. The ones who do have their MCSE/CCNA and such and don't use their sig for promoting what they've achived are the smart ones.

    Now, don't take this as me saying if you use them in your sig you're a moron, I'm just going off what I've seen.

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    I am going to take sides with Orion on this one. Well put.
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    I'm a little diffeent working for a law enforcement agnecy, the only cert I put is CFCE (Certified Forensic Computer Examiner) along with my agency name and title. The only time I list my certs and education is on the actual reports, at the end. There is another CFCE (works for the state) that has all his certs and various postions held as part of his regualr e mail sig. I always roll my eyes when I see it. Of course, he's god's gift to forensics. Just ask him, he'll tell you. And to twice as annoying he spells out each one, line by line. I like getting the emails that have a two line message and nine line signature block from him.
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    Okay...so far I am hearing from people who don't hold a MCSA or higher or a degree saying that they don't like. It seems to be the same people. I've also heard from a person who is MCSA, Linux+, LPIC, CFCE, etc. who said it is alright depending on your job. I would like to hear from some who actually have many of the premier certs or degrees that work in the field. So far what I've gathered locally from I.T. professionals/workers are the same here in the fourm. Those who have and use them at work, don't have the problem. Those who don't, do. I'm not saying that those who don't have all of the beyond entry level certs or degrees are jealous or anything, but I'm saying that the answers have been the same!! This is interesting!
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    We have several engineers here with their CCNP or MCSE and a few CISSP here as well. No one puts down there certs.

    The only people I see placing their certs are new hires on the HelpDesk that place their MCP in their titles - it IMO looks stupid as hell. Even then - after awhile they tend to remove the "MCP Professional" from their title :P
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    I have seen a few people with MCSE in their sig. Looks fine to me. I use the job title of Systems Engineer, but I haven't posted a MCSE cert in my name. But I really wouldn't care if anyone else did. Gives you a idea on the training someone has on the other end. But I wouldn't be advertising bottom certs like Net+ or A+ or CCNA. Something like a CCNP, MCSE, CISSP, CCIE... Things that pertain to your job, and limit it to one.

    Gee Ricka, I wish I spoke to you before I wasted all my time cheating my way to a MCSE...I guess I'll cheat my way on up to a CCIE now. [/end sarcasm]
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    In all fairness...

    "But I wouldn't be advertising bottom certs like Net+ or A+ or CCNA"

    CCNA = bottom cert?



    Seems to be lots of MCSA/MCSE vs. CCNA this week.
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    I think what is meant by bottom level certification is entry level cert for that field.

    IE: A+ = Entry level Hardware, N+ = Entry Level Network, MCP = Entry Level Microsoft, CCNA = Entry Level Cisco
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    I don't put it in my signature because I think there is no need for it

    you have the knowledge and you perform your job the only peopel who need to know your qualifacations are your manager and HR IMO.

    I've seen people put BA after their name....and it looks pretencious to me

    now if your an independent consultant it's different because people might be looking at what certs you have to guage your abilitites but in a tradition al office setting I see no need,
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    I agree with Orion and others. You have to be very careful with e-mail signatures. A Master or PhD is alright by me, but certs look unprofessional.
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    i put mine at the bottom after my name , then following the company stuff

    N+, CCNA, CCNP and then the sig at the bottom
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    As I said in my earlier post, it all depends on what's appropriate for your situation. In most cases, you don't really need to put anything after your name, aside from your company and your job title. On the other hand, if you work for a large company and the upper-management decides your fate based solely on how valuable you are perceived to be, it might not be a bad idea to make sure that, if you're the Windows admin or you're the Cisco engineer, you make sure that those countless people who may be deciding if you get to keep your job or not at the next HR meeting see "CCNA/CCNP/CCIE. . . MCSA/MCSE. . . RHCE/LPIC-1/LPIC-2. . . etc. . ." after your name.

    Then again, if it doesn't matter if you're a PhD with a CCIE and you invented the internet, then you just need the basics on your signature: name, contact info, job title. Pick what's needed and/or appropriate for your situation. No more, no less.

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    Here's my experience with certs in sigs: I work as the IT manager for a local health department. I have a lot of free reign to do work on my own, but since we're still part of the state government and the state's network, lots of times I have to contact networking people at the state's capital to ask for assistance. Aside from mentioning my job title, I put (in small font) my certifications. This is useful for me because the technicians I talk to can see that I'm not just a user asking a common, everyday question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by endersftd
    Here's my experience with certs in sigs: I work as the IT manager for a local health department. I have a lot of free reign to do work on my own, but since we're still part of the state government and the state's network, lots of times I have to contact networking people at the state's capital to ask for assistance. Aside from mentioning my job title, I put (in small font) my certifications. This is useful for me because the technicians I talk to can see that I'm not just a user asking a common, everyday question.
    There you go. I think this is a good example of putting those certs to work in the way they were created for: displaying that you have a particular level of knowledge in a particular area. Thank you for the input, endersftd.

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    Name
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    Attorneys can get away with putting ESQ after their name and Doctors with MD. CCIE could slide but in my opinion anything else is over kill and unprofessional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowhand
    and you invented the internet, then you just need the basics on your signature: name, contact info, job title.
    Why bring Al Gore into this?
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    Wow...this thread has grown !! Seems to be the same opinions though...those with certs over MCP and A+, seem to be doing it since they are actually using what they have learned and attained thorugh certification in their job everyday. I'm waiting for someone with CCIE, MCSE, CCNP, B.S., etc come to the thread and say that they don't...hopefully noone tries to create an account and place a bunch of fake certs in their profile and post though .

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