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    Exclamation *Important* news regarding Linux+/LPIC certs!

    I'm not sure how long this has been going on, and I've seen maybe bits and pieces of it mentioned here, but I have contacted CompTIA, LPI and Novell to verify the following:

    If you pass the CompTIA Linux+ (LX0-101 and LX0-102) exams, earning you the Linux+ cert, you ALSO automatically earn:

    1. The LPIC-1
    2. The Novell CLA (Certified Linux Administrator)
    3. Novell Data Center Technical Specialist

    You have to register with LPI on their website to get an LPI ID number, and when taking the Linux+ exams you must select to send your score information to LPI. When you get the LPIC-1 you automatically get the Novell CLA (and by extension the Novell DCTS), so you have to register with Novell as well to get all 4 certs in one fell swoop.

    So...I'm not sure why this is the case, but I don't think you earn the Linux+ cert by passing the LPIC-1.

    Anyways...hope this helps those who are trying to decide what test to take...it's painfully obvious you should pass the CompTIA Linux+ exam and get the LPIC-1 and Novell CLA *and* Novell DCTS...it's not that hard.



    Note: Apologies if this is not *news* to anyone, but this is definitive proof of the process and I've only read of ambiguous guesses in relation to the above on this forum so I figured I would share the information

    EDITED to reflect updated information!
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    Thanks for the info buddy, I'd like to play with LPI sometime in the future, not now though.

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    Good info! I didn't know this, and was planning to go for that cert in the somewhat near future.
    Cheers!
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    Apparently I did not look far down enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by lsud00d View Post
    I'm not sure how long this has been going on, and I've seen maybe bits and pieces of it mentioned here, but I have contacted CompTIA, LPI and Novell to verify the following:

    If you pass the CompTIA Linux+ (LX0-101 and LX0-102) exams, earning you the Linux+ cert, you ALSO automatically earn:

    1. The LPIC-1
    2. The Novell CLA (Certified Linux Administrator)

    You have to register with LPI on their website to get an LPI ID number, and when taking the Linux+ exams you must select to send your score information to LPI. When you get the LPIC-1 you automatically get the Novell CLA, so you have to register with Novell as well to get all 3 certs in one fell swoop.

    So...I'm not sure why this is the case, but I don't think you earn the Linux+ cert by passing the LPIC-1.

    Anyways...hope this helps those who are trying to decide what test to take...it's painfully obvious you should pass the CompTIA Linux+ exam and get the LPIC-1 and Novell CLA...it's not that hard.



    Note: Apologies if this is not *news* to anyone, but this is definitive proof of the process and I've only read of ambiguous guesses in relation to the above on this forum so I figured I would share the information
    Thanks for the great information!
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    Sure thing N2IT

    Also, I'm not sure if you caught my update in a couple of other threads, but apparently this is a 4 for 1 certification...because you also get the Novell "Data Center Technical Specialist," which nobody really knows what it is and is probably not worth the paper it's printed on, but hell...it's got my name on it and will take on an extra line on my resume
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsud00d View Post
    Sure thing N2IT

    Also, I'm not sure if you caught my update in a couple of other threads, but apparently this is a 4 for 1 certification...because you also get the Novell "Data Center Technical Specialist," which nobody really knows what it is and is probably not worth the paper it's printed on, but hell...it's got my name on it and will take on an extra line on my resume
    the more the better!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsud00d View Post
    Sure thing N2IT

    Also, I'm not sure if you caught my update in a couple of other threads, but apparently this is a 4 for 1 certification...because you also get the Novell "Data Center Technical Specialist," which nobody really knows what it is and is probably not worth the paper it's printed on, but hell...it's got my name on it and will take on an extra line on my resume
    Awesome!

    Thanks again
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatthehell View Post
    Good info! I didn't know this, and was planning to go for that cert in the somewhat near future.
    Cheers!
    +1 .... I guess I know what my next cert is while I am waiting for all the hardware to arrive so i can finish up my CCNA/CCNP home lab. .....

    again thanks to the OP!
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    Hi guys,

    Recently passed Linux+ certification exam and also received my LPIC-1 credentials. I signed up for Novell CLA and can now be considered one.

    I decided to review the "Novell Technical Training Certification Agreement", which one is required to agree to before receiving Novell CLA. I wonder if any one of you also recently studied it. The following excerpt from section 9 got me particularly interested. I usually have no trouble fully understanding such legal documents (including those provided in non-native languages I understand, such as English) and didn't discover anything extraordinary about this particular agreement going through it previously. Here's the excerpt of interest:

    "No title to or ownership of the MARKS or of any software or proprietary technology or intellectual property is transferred to You. NOVELL, or its licensors, owns and retains all title and ownership of all intellectual property rights in the products, including all software, firmware, software master diskettes, copies of software, documentation, related materials, and all modifications to and derivative works from software acquired as a Program certification holder which are made by You, NOVELL or any third party."

    Can anyone help explain what copies of software, documentation and related materials acquired or made by me as a Program certification holder do NOVELL or its licensors own or retain all title and ownership of?


    I also directly contacted Novell for clarification and will provide updates as soon as they arrive.

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    I means that anything made by Novell, or anything made by you that is designed from Novell software, docs, etc., is the property of Novell. they are just securing the legal rights to their own software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsud00d View Post
    I'm not sure how long this has been going on, and I've seen maybe bits and pieces of it mentioned here, but I have contacted CompTIA, LPI and Novell to verify the following:

    If you pass the CompTIA Linux+ (LX0-101 and LX0-102) exams, earning you the Linux+ cert, you ALSO automatically earn:

    1. The LPIC-1
    2. The Novell CLA (Certified Linux Administrator)
    3. Novell Data Center Technical Specialist

    You have to register with LPI on their website to get an LPI ID number, and when taking the Linux+ exams you must select to send your score information to LPI. When you get the LPIC-1 you automatically get the Novell CLA (and by extension the Novell DCTS), so you have to register with Novell as well to get all 4 certs in one fell swoop.

    So...I'm not sure why this is the case, but I don't think you earn the Linux+ cert by passing the LPIC-1.

    Anyways...hope this helps those who are trying to decide what test to take...it's painfully obvious you should pass the CompTIA Linux+ exam and get the LPIC-1 and Novell CLA *and* Novell DCTS...it's not that hard.



    Note: Apologies if this is not *news* to anyone, but this is definitive proof of the process and I've only read of ambiguous guesses in relation to the above on this forum so I figured I would share the information

    EDITED to reflect updated information!
    LSU

    Do you imput the information for the verification code for Novell after you pass? I noticed you can register with LPI right away. However you receive no verification code. I am assuming that you will recieve this once you pass the Linux + exams 1 - 2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by N2IT View Post
    LSU

    Do you imput the information for the verification code for Novell after you pass? I noticed you can register with LPI right away. However you receive no verification code. I am assuming that you will recieve this once you pass the Linux + exams 1 - 2?
    Hey man!

    Sorry I did not see your reply. Basically I received my LPI and CompTIA Career ID's separately, and after registering at all of the websites (including Novell), I used my LPI ID to verify through Novell of the completion. Here is more information I received via email which kinda explains things in generalized terms:

    Yes, by taking and passing the CompTia Linux+ Powered by LPI exams you will get all 3 certifications. You will need to register for an LPI ID on our website and place that information in your CompTia account. Once the exams are received in your LPI account, we will order and send you your LPIC 1 certificate. To get your Novell CLA, you will need to complete the application on their website, they will the send you their certification.

    Hope this helps!
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    I was just about to start a thread on this, for DoD personnel - it will satisfy the OS certification requirement of DoD 8570.

    Not to repeat, but here is what I found with more detailed information, with some specifically for DoD peeps (found on milBook):

    In addition to baseline certification(s) DoD 8570.01-M also requires a Computer Environment Certification. One of the authorized CECs is Linux+ and earning this certification satisfies the CEC requirement.

    CompTIA has partnered with the Linux Professional Institute (LPI) in the development of the Linux+ examinations (CompTIA press release). There are two examinations a candidate must pass to earn the Linux+ certification, but when you take the tests you are given the option to share the results with the LPI. If you choose to share with LPI and pass both examinations not only will you receive a certificate in the mail from CompTIA certifying you are Linux+ certified but you will also receive one from LPI conferring Linux Professional Institute Certification Level 1 (LPIC-1).

    To Department of the Army military and civilians holding current IA positions: LPIC-1 can be entered into the Army Training & Certification Tracking System for credit on your official IA training compliance record. Be aware that ATCTS lists the LPIC-1 as “Linux Professional Institute Certification-(Linux)-Junior level “.

    Okay, so that’s two certifications for the price of one so far. Where do you get the third? Well, as it turns out LPI has partnered with Novell (LPI press release). Anyone that earns the LPIC-1 is also eligible to be certified as a Novell Certified Linux Administrator 11 (Novell CLA 11).

    When your certificate arrives from LPI it will contain information about signing up for the Novell CLA 11 certification credit, free to anyone that earned the LPIC-1. Fill in the information for Novell and presto, you have a third Linux certification which can also be added to ATCTS as another CEC.

    So we have three certifications for successfully completing two examinations that were for just one certification, thanks to these partnerships. So why would these companies do this? Well, to hopefully sell you more certifications is why. CompTIA is happy with it’s single Linux certification, but LPI and Novell have other Linux certifications that build on the knowledge required for Linux+ and by giving you a freebee they hope to attract your interest in their additional certifications.

    How does any of this help you? If you’re having to account for your successful completion of a Computer Environment Certification you can add three certifications and exceed the requirement. You’ll have three new certifications to add to your annual evaluation input demonstrating you’re keeping up with continuing education requirements of your organization. Moreover if there is a merit promotion position available you have three certifications to add (if applicable) to your resume. CPAC could care less if you got all three at once, they just see three valid certifications from three different organizations and they assign them point values that get added to the assessed point total for your resume. More points are a good thing when you’re competing for positions.

    EDIT:
    from a comment on the above on milBook:

    Novell tossed in one more certificate when I registered for their partner program described above, conferring upon me a Data Center Technical Specialist certificate. It's a bit vaguely worded but can be add to your resume/record as another miscellaneous professional certificate.
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    Thanks for the informative post Colemic!
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    I looked on their website and didn't find any information.

    However I've had my Linux+ since 2009, do I automatically qualify for LPI-1?
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    I looked on their website and didn't find any information.

    However I've had my Linux+ since 2009, do I automatically qualify for LPI-1?
    Quite possibly, I would register at LPI's website and you can enter your CompTIA Career ID and see if you get one in the mail
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    If your L+ cert was earned before LPIC-CompTIA L+ merger, I doubt it will earn you the lpic-1 and novell certs. Possible reason: exam objectives. Pre-merger L+ and LPIC are incompatible. But I might be wrong.
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    Thanks for the info buddy, I'd like to play with LPI sometime in the future, not now though.

    Thank you
    Interesting. Why would an RHCE and SCSA holder focus on an LPI cert?
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    Interesting. Why would an RHCE and SCSA holder focus on an LPI cert?
    Good question. I will not take the exams, I just wanted to see the topics covered, specially LDAP and some other topics
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    Interesting. Why would an RHCE and SCSA holder focus on an LPI cert?
    I have Security+ and the Solaris Admin Cert. I had an interview yesterday for a DOD job and the still wanted Linux+, since it was aa Linux and not a Unix position.
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    Can we make this a sticky? I thought it was already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lsud00d View Post
    When you get the LPIC-1 you automatically get the Novell CLA (and by extension the Novell DCTS), so you have to register with Novell as well to get all 4 certs in one fell swoop.
    I can't find any mention of the Novell DCTS, or that Novell will post 2 certificates when applying with your LPI-ID. Do you have a link?

    I have completed the LPI-101, and can confirm that Comptia does not recognise it.
    The partnership seems to flow in one direction, and after enquiring with Comptia, they only recognise exams written directly through themselves - so I guess I will have to do their LX0-101 (and then their LX0-102).

    Response from Comptia:

    Thank you for contacting CompTIA. Although the exams are equivalent, CompTIA
    does not accept other training or credentials towards earning our certifications. Candidates must sit and pass our exams in order to earn our certification. Therefore, you will need to take both the CompTIA LX0-101 and LX0-102 in order to become CompTIA Linux+ certified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autumnox View Post
    I can't find any mention of the Novell DCTS, or that Novell will post 2 certificates when applying with your LPI-ID. Do you have a link?
    Sorry for the late response but:

    ...those holders of the "CompTIA Linux + powered by LPI" certification who apply for and receive their LPIC-1 certification are also eligible to receive their Novell Certified Linux Administrator Certification. Sometimes called the "3-in-1 Linux certification" the process has been described on several blogs and in the media — see Greg Porter for an example.

    To obtain your "3-in-1 Linux certification" do so as follows:
    1. Obtain a LPI ID: (for the future also consider TCR registration and listing your other IT credentials with LPI)
    2. When taking your "CompTIA Linux+ powered by LPI" exams indicate that your exam scores may be forwarded to LPI
    3. Upon receipt of your LPIC-1 apply online for your Novell CLA at.

    CompTIA Partnership | Linux Professional Institute (LPI)


    Greg Porter Describes the process on his blog, but if you get the Novell CLA you automatically get the Novell DCTS as I described

    Bonus! Getting Novell CLA automatically awards Novell Data Center Technical Specialist! | Greg Porter's Blog

    *************************

    Also FWIW the Novell DCTS is just a novelty, I do not recommend putting it on your resume. The CLA is almost a novelty as well (it IS a gimme cert after all), but I work in a SUSE shop so the CLA is relevant to my skillset and I could address questions about it in an interview.
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    Looks like I will be tackling the Comptia Linux + Certification soon. Never thought I would be going back and getting a Comptia Certification.
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