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    Default 2012 MCSE or 2016 after 70-417?

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    I thought I'd raise the question to you all as I am a bit unsure of what path to take and need some advice. I'm currently working on my 70-417 to get my MCSA: Windows Server 2012 certification.

    After seeing new information published about the 2016 certifications, I would like to take the 70-743 to upgrade my 2012 once I have completed it.

    However, my original plan was to complete my MCSE for 2012, but now I'm thinking just to do the MCSA, then work towards the MCSE in 2016 instead after the 70-743. I would still like the MCSA in 2012 as many companies are still using this server version in their infrastructures and makes sense to get something that people still have. Plus I need it if I want to do the direct upgrade path anyway!

    But instead of spending time doing the 2012 MCSE, should I just go for the 2016 version instead? I feel that I would already have the basic understanding of 2012 anyway from the MCSA, and my time would be better spent afterwards just doing the 2016?

    What do you guys think?
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    I would continue to finish the 2012 MCSA. While looking at the Infrastructure Path for MCSE, I do not see a distinction for 2012 or 2016. I am working on the 744 Securing Windows Server 2016 exam to complete the MCSE Cloud Platform & Infrastructure. It looks like they have switched to a year earned and not associated with a version of Windows Server. The pool of exams that finish the MCSE have both 2012 and 2016 exams.
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    There are no more MCSE on 2012 or 2016 Server.
    New MCSE certification for Servers is a: MCSE: Cloud Platform and Infrastructure
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/lear...structure.aspx
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    I plan on doing the MCSA for 2012 no matter what as I can upgrade straight from the 70-686. What I would like to know if I should do the MCSE for Server Infrastructure now (413, 414), or just go straight for the MCSA for 2016 then to the MCSE for Cloud Platform and Infrastructure?

    Is there any difference between MCSE Server Infrastructure and MCSE Cloud Platform and Infrastructure? Are they both assigned to a particular Server OS version, or does it make no difference which one I do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyliinez92 View Post
    I plan on doing the MCSA for 2012 no matter what as I can upgrade straight from the 70-686. What I would like to know if I should do the MCSE for Server Infrastructure now (413, 414), or just go straight for the MCSA for 2016 then to the MCSE for Cloud Platform and Infrastructure?

    Is there any difference between MCSE Server Infrastructure and MCSE Cloud Platform and Infrastructure? Are they both assigned to a particular Server OS version, or does it make no difference which one I do?
    MCSE for Server Infrastructure is retired:
    Note This certification retired on March 31, 2017. Find out about the replacement certification, MCSE: Cloud Platform and Infrastructure.
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    Yeah, all of the MCSE exams are directly applicable to both MCSA 2012 and MCSA 2016. As far as I know.
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    Looking at the certification requirements, it looks as though after the MCSA 2012 or 2016, you only need to do ONE exam in step 2 to gain the MCSE, or am I mistaken? I'm slightly confused as both the 70-413 and 70-414 exams are in this list, and you had to do both for the Server Infrastructure cert. Although, it does also say to gain ONE within 2017, so it might be a promotional offer that could change next year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyliinez92 View Post
    Looking at the certification requirements, it looks as though after the MCSA 2012 or 2016, you only need to do ONE exam in step 2 to gain the MCSE, or am I mistaken?
    You got it right. If you have your MSCA 2012, just one more exam will get you your MCSE now.
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    Awesome! I really hope that's going to be the case next year as well. With work and stuff going on at the moment, I wouldn't have time to do my 70-417 and one of those select exams to get my MCSE this year. Still, I can always push and try I guess.
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    I think that they mention 2017, because now the idea is to re-certify your MCSE every year by passing another exam in 2018, so I wouldn't worry. It's probably going to be one exam for the MCSE for the foreseeable future.
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    Guys, how one can upgrade MCSE 2012 to MCSE 2016 if there is no MCSE 2016? Or I am missing something on MS website?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sacredboy View Post
    Guys, how one can upgrade MCSE 2012 to MCSE 2016 if there is no MCSE 2016? Or I am missing something on MS website?
    Looking at the requirements for the MCSE, unless I'm mistaken, you should already have the MCSE for 2016 (Cloud Platform and Infrastructure). The link below shows the requirements.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/lear...structure.aspx

    Step 1 - Earn an MCSA in 2012 or 2016.
    Step 2 - Complete ONE of the required exams (both 70-413 and 70-141 are listed in these).

    So, technically you have met the requirements, so you should already have it? Might be worth checking your MS learning profile. However, you MIGHT need to maybe do just one of the additional exams in step 2 other than the two you already have? It's all still very confusing.
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    I mean one can achieve MCSA 2016 and then move forward to MCSE Cloud Platform and Infrastructure but classic MCSE Server does not exist any more.
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