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    Default Do I still have time....

    to study for the MCSE 2003 or should I just start with the 2008.
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    I understand that the 2003 exams will be around for a while yet.

    Depends on what you are using at work. If you are using 2008 (or upgrading soon) maybe better to go down that route ??
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    I understsand. Is the objectives that much different from 2003 to 2008? Once I take the 2003 can't I just upgrade to 2008?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mallyg27 View Post
    I understsand. Is the objectives that much different from 2003 to 2008? Once I take the 2003 can't I just upgrade to 2008?
    You definitely could, just make sure you choose do the Vista or Win7 client certification for the MCITP:EA since the 2008 route does not recognize XP.

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    I think it would be better to do the 2003 track and then upgrade to 2008.
    That way you'll have experiance in 2003 and 2008 and employers will like that.
    Thats just my view.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super99 View Post
    I think it would be better to do the 2003 track and then upgrade to 2008.
    That way you'll have experiance in 2003 and 2008 and employers will like that.
    Thats just my view.
    Yea, thats the route I'm going to take.
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    Does anybody know when they are going to retire the 2003 tests?
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    Quote Originally Posted by djhss68 View Post
    Does anybody know when they are going to retire the 2003 tests?
    They are not currently scheduled to be discontinued:
    Microsoft Certified Professional Exam Development - Discontinued Exams
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentholMoose View Post
    They are not currently scheduled to be discontinued:
    Microsoft Certified Professional Exam Development - Discontinued Exams
    So we're good thru 2010. Maybe even 2011?

    It's gonna take me some time to knock out these exams.
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    Thank you for contacting the Microsoft Certification Guidance Team. I am sending you the following information in response to your query.

    Exam 70-270 is part of our MCSE certification on Windows Server 2003. You are required to complete 7 exams in order to obtain this certification. Here are the MCSE on Windows Server 2003 certification requirements.

    The MCSE will be retiring sometime in 2010, however we are unaware of the exact date at this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamini View Post
    Thank you for contacting the Microsoft Certification Guidance Team. I am sending you the following information in response to your query.

    Exam 70-270 is part of our MCSE certification on Windows Server 2003. You are required to complete 7 exams in order to obtain this certification. Here are the MCSE on Windows Server 2003 certification requirements.

    The MCSE will be retiring sometime in 2010, however we are unaware of the exact date at this time.

    Wow, are they finally going to retire it, eh? I need to get on my horse and GO then.
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    Default i think this is important info, i had not anticipated MCSE2003 would retire this year

    the other half of that email:

    If you have further questions about these certifications, please let me know. Have a great day!

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    WOW! Well, that answers whether or not MCITP:EA will start being recognized by HR departments

    Or am I being to hopeful
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    Thank god, finally.
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    well crap. I guess this means I need to get off my arse and get moving on some exams this year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skrpune View Post
    well crap. I guess this means I need to get off my arse and get moving on some exams this year!

    Im with you on this one! Lets hope they announce a LATE year retirement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by snadam View Post
    Im with you on this one! Lets hope they announce a LATE year retirement.
    Since the MCSA/MCSE 2003 track has been so insanely popular and sought-after, and considering how long it was between the announcement of the 2000 track retiring and the actual date it did, I'm guessing that they'll announce the retirement date in 2010. . . but it won't be until 2011 or 2012 that the actual exams retire. And, knowing Microsoft, there'll probably be some pushbacks and extensions before the final nail is in the coffin. I'm sure we have plenty of time left.

    Still, this does mean that we can officially stop telling people that the 2003 exams aren't retiring anytime soon and newbies can safely start working on the MCSE and upgrade to MCITP: Enterprise Administrator.

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    I agree, i bet the retirement will be ~march 2011 but will simply be announced this year. Which means there is still plenty of time to start and finish an MCSE.

    However, that depends on the person. Some people starting from scratch wont be able to get the material down, pay for, and pass 7 tests x 125$ from now until first quarter next year.
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    This would make baby jezus cry. i just picked up my 70-270 book last week... figures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamini View Post
    I just picked up my 70-270 book last week... figures.
    Just knock off the MCSA and go for the MCITP Path It's good that you have 2003 knowledge, it will still be important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyper-Me View Post
    I agree, i bet the retirement will be ~march 2011 but will simply be announced this year. Which means there is still plenty of time to start and finish an MCSE.

    However, that depends on the person. Some people starting from scratch wont be able to get the material down, pay for, and pass 7 tests x 125$ from now until first quarter next year.
    I don't know about this. MS Learning has become increasingly more hard line with their policies and they are bending less and less to pressure provided by the public. If I were looking at finishing this track I would plan on having it completed by the Fall. If we don't hear anything by Spring, then I would say you guys are right and they will not be discontinued until 2011. But if I were just starting on my MCSE I would nock out the core exams right away and only worry about the electives later.
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    I dont think MSL knows what MSL is doing

    They flip flop more than a mcdonalds hamburger patty.

    That being said, I would prefer an early MCSE retirement, so companies get the chance to start learning what an MCITP is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyper-Me View Post

    That being said, I would prefer an early MCSE retirement, so companies get the chance to start learning what an MCITP is.
    Retiring a Cert path is not the most beneficial method to bring awareness to your new line of products. Companies will learn more and more about the 2008 track when they start upgrading to Server 2008. And from my experience, I see 1 Server 2008 environment for every 60+ 2003 environments.

    That being said, I would prefer a later MCSE retirement, so I have more time to complete the last 2 required exams.
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    MCITP will never gain prominence until everybody stops being able to get the MCSE, because everyone still goes for the MCSE.

    Seriously, its time to move on.
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    the retiring in October list, no MCSE stuff there but I could believe them announcing it this spring then retiring in early 2011, should give me at the least this year to finish up what i need
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