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    Default MSCA 2012 electives.

    Hello,

    I'm currently studying for the Server 2012 MCSA , I stared it last year and I was under the impression I could pass an elective (70-346 , 70-409 etc etc ) to earn my MCSA. This meant I didn't have to pass the final 70-412 exam and I could instead study for the 70-346 exam. Is this still the case? Can we still substitute exams to pass the Windows Server 2012 MCSA?

    Theres no mention of it on Microsofts new certification paths.
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    I don't think they do anymore judging by their requirements: https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/lear...-step2-content

    I too wanted to skip the 412 and do the 74-409 instead but the 74-409 is only credit towards 'MCP' and 'Microsoft Specialist'

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-au/lear...am-74-409.aspx

    Either way, after I do ever finish my 412, I'll probably still take a shot at 74-409.
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    Thanks for the reply and thats what I thought, but there are others posts on this site , that I saw after my original post, that suggest otherwise.

    Which exam next?

    So I'm a bit confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ikahn View Post
    Thanks for the reply and thats what I thought, but there are others posts on this site , that I saw after my original post, that suggest otherwise.

    Which exam next?

    So I'm a bit confused.
    I saw that thread as well and noticed it was pretty recent too so I'm not really sure what to go by... At the moment, if I ever do get around to doing the 411, I might just stick to the path on the MS site and go get the 412 OR I could just see what happens and get the 74-409 but if I don't get it, have I just set myself a few months back from studying 412 content which I could've done sooner...
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    I've passed the 70-410 and 70-411 , and I was thinking of doing a different exam. The 70-412 is supposed to be harder than the 70-411 and it took me a while to get my head around that.
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    I just checked and the 409 is still on the list. Check it out:

    20170309 MCSA Paths.jpg
    2017 Goals: 70-411 [X], 74-409 [X], 70-533 [X], VCP5-DCV [], LX0-103 [], LX0-104 []
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    Quote Originally Posted by nascar_paul View Post
    I just checked and the 409 is still on the list. Check it out:

    Attachment 8362
    Is that for people who had already made progress toward MCSA 2012 by a certain date? I don't these elective options except for the MCSE.
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    I just checked and it looks like I have the option to take the 74-409 still to complete the MCSA. Same as the screenshot above.
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    Thanks for all your help. It looks like its still possible to substitute the electives.
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    You guys able to link where you're getting the info from?

    EDIT: Never mind, I found it under the cert planner under your profile. I knew I've seen that somewhere before
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    Why wouldn't they put that on the public site if it is still an option? I wouldn't have wasted my time on 412 if I had known SQL Server was an option.
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    Yep. No idea... was under the impression it wasn't anymore till I saw that path thing under my profile... least I don't have to stress with 412. 409 seems more enjoyable but first things first for me, 411 then 409!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nascar_paul View Post
    I just checked and the 409 is still on the list. Check it out:

    Attachment 8362

    Nascar Paul is right, I've seen it under cert planner.
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    Maybe because its no longer valid??? So if you started your certification last year, you can still substitute the electives but if you were to start a 2012 cert. now you can't?? If you think about it , if you started the MCSA when you could substitute an elective and they then changed that , it would be a touch unfair??
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    I only got my 410 mid February though and it's still coming up as an elective after 411?
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    Hi All,
    I am bit of confused about this. I passed 70-346 like two years ago while getting MCSA Office 365. This year I decided to get MCSA Win Server 2012 in my spare time and like a month ago I saw in my cert planner that I need to pass just 70-410 and 70-411 since 70-346 is elective for 70-412. So I passed 70-410 and then 70-411 today.. But when I open my cert planner now I don't see any electives for 70-412 like it was before, instead of that I see that 70-412 is required for MCSA... I call this BS, because I see nowhere any kind of notification about changing the rules...
    So I wanna ask do you guys still see options for electives in your cert planners??
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    Yes, they all still show.
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    Thanks for sharing doubleo. I will email MS to ask them what is going on.
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    UPDATE: 7/7/17:
    after following up on this, I was told by Microsoft that there was "a disconnect in two systems due to them containing different data". I just checked my transcript, and it's now showing I have passed the MCSA 2012. But I'd proceed very carefully though if you're currently planning on taking one of these electives. Probably better to play it safe and go 410, 411, and 412.

    ==ORIGINAL POST==

    Not for me they don't. I was told this by Microsoft after querying why my recent pass of 74-409 was not counting towards my MCSA:


    "Microsoft has updated the process about earning the [MCSA] certification. The update was completed this June 2017 and the exam 74-409 was removed as a substitute exam and all other substitute exams listed."
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    That's abit of a kick in the face for people who studied for MCSA recently.
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    Well I would expect that MS would share such info a few months in advance of doing it like they do it with retiring exams so people preparing for the exams could prepare for the change.... If I would knew that I need to take 3 exams instead of 2 for 2012 I would go directly for 2016...
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