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  1. PMP-Wannabe! erpadmin's Avatar
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    Default Ummm...wow.....

    Ok, this one is a real annoyance.

    As alot of you probably know, the Support Tools for Server 200X (I had to do this in a 2003 domain in a previous environment) had to be installed separately, by loading up your Windows Server CD and navigating to \support\tools (maybe i386\support\tools...can't remember). I remember doing this because I needed to deal with ADSI edit to make some LDAP changes for PeopleSoft to work with AD connectivity.

    Anyway, I'm on chapter 3 of the guide, and it's saying that you have to do that again so that you can run the ldp.exe utility.

    Well, according to Technet, when you install AD (after you set up DNS), ADSI Edit and LDP are installed and placed in the system32 folder after AD is installed (however other support tools have been deprecated in R2).

    This is still not a dealbreaker, but it's a minor annoyance. The book is so far easy to follow along and since much of this stuff is coming back to me, I envision sitting for the 640 exam very soon at this rate. I'm waiting until I'm done with Part I of this guide to envoke the uCertify prep kit I bought. I don't think uCertify is R2, but I don't see anything other than a couple of new AD features that are wowing me.

    One thing is for sure...I will finish this book and take the exams it covers....then I can properly review it. Just wanted to leave this note for myself to get back to it, as well as let you guys know what to expect.
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    #27
    I have now read three chapters (2, 12, and 13), my first impressions:

    I am getting exposed to some new topics I haven't encountered in the MS Press books, which is good. There is still a lot of overlap, but this is a good backup source.

    The chapter review questions are more detailed (harder) and there seem to be more of them (~10 per chapter).

    The exercises seem a little basic so far (installing DNS, setting up a DHCP scope, etc.). I am really hoping they have some advanced exercises for NAP, etc. later on.

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    #28
    Just wondering for those who have bought this book, whether they find it a bit thin on the ground. I purchased it specifically for the 643 R2 material (chapters 19 to 27), having done my 640/642 via the 648 upgrade exam.

    Got exam in two weeks. Looks as if I will need to supplement it with other books that I have. I'm also using Transcenders, Sybex 70-643 and MS Press 643 (which does not cover R2).
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    Quote Originally Posted by neathneathneath View Post
    Just wondering for those who have bought this book, whether they find it a bit thin on the ground. I purchased it specifically for the 643 R2 material (chapters 19 to 27), having done my 640/642 via the 648 upgrade exam.

    Got exam in two weeks. Looks as if I will need to supplement it with other books that I have. I'm also using Transcenders, Sybex 70-643 and MS Press 643 (which does not cover R2).
    I also had bought it for the 643 material. Yes, very thin coverage.

    RDS --
    I ended up getting more out of the 'unleashed' book than the Sybex book. If you check the 643 sticky, I posted some links for the Microsoft RDS labs a couple of weeks back.

    SharePoint Foundation --
    I had purchased a Wrox book on Sharepoint administration that I used to study for that portion of the exam ( Amazon.com: Beginning SharePoint 2010 Administration: Windows SharePoint Foundation 2010 and Microsoft SharePoint Server 2010 (Wrox Beginning Guides) (9780470597125): Göran Husman, Christian Ståhl: Books ).

    Media Server --
    The Sybex book and technet.

    WDS --
    The Sybex book and my Windows 7 Configuration book for the 680 exam.

    IIS --
    Technet and playing with the options (lab) for the most part. Sybex book barely touched on AppCmd which seems to be the most granular way to do any configuration.

    Hyper-V --
    Technet and many years working with VMWare server and workstation since a lot of the concepts are the same.

    Failover Clustering --
    Self-directed labs setting up failover clustering (file and print services and am trying to set up an exchange cluster). Search for prior threads on setting up iSCSI - there's a couple of links for using a linux build to host the shared storage. I also have over 10 years supporting Microsoft clusters on NT4, Windows 2000, and Windows 2003.

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    Can this book be used the primary book to study from or is it better as just a supplemental review guide?
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    I suppliment every exam objective with as much material as I can find and lab. It does take long study wise tho.
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    Quote Originally Posted by medic View Post
    Can this book be used the primary book to study from or is it better as just a supplemental review guide?
    AFAIK, there is no book that has complete coverage of all the exam objectives for R2, but this one seems like a decent resource. I will probably purchase this one even though I have no plans for taking 2008 R2 exams in near future. I would definitely get a second or maybe even a third resource if I were to prepare to take an exam though.
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    Anyone know if the practice test questions and flash cards are available as a download or something if you buy the Kindle version? I asked Amazon support last night and they said they didn't know.
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    Just an FYI, this book is now available on Books24x7 for those of you who have access.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nobylspoon View Post
    Just an FYI, this book is now available on Books24x7 for those of you who have access.
    Damm, I just picked this book up from a certain large book retailer who is going under in Aus. I much prefer an ebook version. So much lighter than lugging around a 1000+ page book everyday.

    oh well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzero View Post
    Damm, I just picked this book up from a certain large book retailer who is going under in Aus. I much prefer an ebook version. So much lighter than lugging around a 1000+ page book everyday.

    oh well.
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    FYI-- I just took a test a few days ago and it had a score on it still.

    Books24x7 -- can you download the book from there? I have access, but I thought you only can read from there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Nikon View Post
    FYI-- I just took a test a few days ago and it had a score on it still.

    Books24x7 -- can you download the book from there? I have access, but I thought you only can read from there?
    It depends on your account. I can download up to 15 chapters with my work account but I cant download any with my school account [WGU].
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    If you purchase the pdf version of this text do you get the practice tests and other content from the CD?
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    I purchased this product at no small price. I am extremely disappointed that there is no ebook included as is normal. I contacted Wiley who pointed me to a site where I could buy the ebook. The reason I originally bought the physical book was to get the accompanying CD. So now it looks like I will have to fork out the same money again to get the PDF version. I am not happy!
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    Anyone had much luck reading just this and passing one of the Microsoft exams? I bought it but it looks similar to the Sybex CCNP Advanced Internetworking Guide, which grazes every topic and a great primer for the CCNPv5 but won't help in passing any of the last generation exams.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spiderjericho View Post
    Anyone had much luck reading just this and passing one of the Microsoft exams? I bought it but it looks similar to the Sybex CCNP Advanced Internetworking Guide, which grazes every topic and a great primer for the CCNPv5 but won't help in passing any of the last generation exams.
    I would not use this book as a sole source for these exams. I have been reading through it. While it does cover some material that M$ doesn't, the lab exercises are very basic and you definitely need hands-on for this exam. I've read through the MS press 640, Sybex, and am finishing up the Server 2008 R2 unleashed book. A lot of reading, but all those books covered the exam objectives well.
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