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    Good luck on the exam. I just started studying this week for the exam and reading these types of posts are very intimidating. I already know I'm going to really need to read up on roles and FS.

    Can anyone compare it to the Server 2003 exam? I passed that without too much study time, but I know a lot has changed since then.
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    This thread makes me very nervous!

    I have not scheduled my exam yet and after reading this thread I think I'll just reread the material again before doing so. I am pretty bad at taking tests so I am already nervous but now more so. I have never taken a cert test before but I wanted to knock out a few for the resume since I don't have a degree, just experience. After reading about this test I'm thinking maybe I should ease in with a different cert

    Good Luck next month Saundie!
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    Thanks DazzlingGenius. If you have experience with AD in a larger environment then you probably won't find it as much of a struggle as I am. Most of the companies I deal with have just an SBS box and 5-20 users, so I don't get to look at most of the features AD offers. I also made the mistake of relying on the TrainSignal videos the first time I took the exam, not realising that it would be packed with references to specific commands and their syntax.
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    Sorry to hear that Saundie, if it's any consolation I failed this exam for the 2nd time on Friday, it really has done me in. I beasted the revision, measure up practice tests and labs but still not enough- clsoe to jsut saying f**k it now as I've spent so much of my free time preparing for this and I'm beginning to wonder why I bother. As others have mentioned I too have had the good luck to never fail any exams at school or uni yet this one really is a tough one to crack and I'm dreading retaking it again! Failing it once was bad enough but this second time has broken me mentally, lol. Fair play to you for keeping at it mate and going for another resit, give me a shout if you want to throw any ideas/study around might help for motivation! lol
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    I am going to give it my best shot when I resit it on the 14th, but I have to admit that my confidence has been shaken considerably by so many failures. I know that I didn't study properly the first couple of times, but I put in much more effort last time. I guess that shows in how close I got to passing, but it's still demoralising. My employer has been kind enough to allow me to use the office at the weekend to study, so I'm going to spend the next couple of weekends just ploughing through the book and labs again, and just hope that it sticks this time. I know this isn't the most helpful attitude to take, but I am tired of this subject and I want to move on to 70-642 and 70-646.

    I suppose I have a problem with the way the exams themselves are pitched, because to me some of questions are almost punitive. I don't see why you need to learn the syntax for the parameter for every command, given that they all have a help feature and internet access is all-pervasive these days. Surely knowing which command should be used in any given circumstance is far more important than testing your ability to regurgitate commands on demand. Beyond the common "ipconfig /flushdns" sort of stuff, I always refer to the help when building up a command. Perhaps I'm in error, and maybe people really do still commit all this stuff to memory?
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    Mate I understand how you feel, I've had enough already too. It's even worse having to explain to work that you failed the damn thing! I am going to take a break for a bit as got loads of fun and cool things to do in June and quite frankly I am fed up of studying and labbing 24/7 after work and missing out on family and social life! Need a few weeks of chilling then hit it again and hope the break does me good. Good luck with your studying weekends dude, really hope you smash that bloody exam and give me hope too, lol
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    I'm with you Saudie. I've failed the 642 multiple times, i'm sitting the exam for the last time tomorrow.

    They are going out of their way to make the exam unnecessarily difficult. There are definitely questions and topics that are vague or require you to remember every single nook and cranny of the OS. I know they are trying to make these exams more 'valid' and make cheating harder - but all they are doing is pushing valid test takers to look into cheating because of how difficult these exams are.

    I feel you though, i'm missing out on family and free time because every night between 8 and 11 i'm doing labs, reading or reading online tech articles about the exam topics.

    Good luck to you!
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    Hi guys,

    I've just seen this thread and thought I'd post a reply. I took the 70-640 exam yesterday for the second time and failed it with a score of 548. The first time I took it I scored 657. It's one thing to fail it a second time, but to get a lower score as well is a massive kick in the teeth. According to the score report, my weak areas are DNS and ADCS. These were the same as before, but I felt pretty confident this time round and thought I'd done OK as I'd been hammering the prep tests and labs in these areas in the mean time.

    I don't know what it is but the actual test seems nothing like the prep tests. I've used the MeasureUp and Transcender tests and I've been scoring 80-90% on those tests which has proved adequate in the past.

    I got a lot of questions on DNS particularly to do with zone delegation and replication, ADCS - there was a general theme of allowing a particular group the ability to issue smart card certificates, ADRMS - one I remember was asking about which file to modify to allow ADRMS to work with Windows Mobile 6 devices... WTF!?

    In a lot of cases I feel that they don't give you enough information in the question to determine what the correct answer is. I spent a lot of time trying to figure out what the question was actually asking before I could choose a suitable answer. I got 3 groups of 5 "series" questions where the answers are the same but the questions were obviously different. There were 10 possible answers, A-J, which made trying to figure out correct answers by process of elimination impossible!

    I got one question asking how to create a new UPN suffix. The obvious answer to that in my mind is via Active Directory Domains and Trusts, yet that wasn't one of the answers! I think the correct answer was one of the PowerShell cmdlets. I really don't see the point in memorising multiple lengthy shell / PowerShell commands to do this kind of task when it can very easily be done via the UI. Maybe if the question was asking how to do it on Server Core then fair enough, but Server Core wasn't mentioned.

    Another question I had was about importing users from a CSV file using PowerShell. It wanted you to choose the correct syntax from the 4 possible answers.

    I also got a lot of questions asking which mmc snap-in you would use for a given task. I find this particularly frustrating as most of the examples in the MS Press book take you via Server Manager and you generally don't touch the individual snap-in's when learning.

    It just seems like they're making the test deliberately difficult for no good reason.

    I really don't know where to go from here as I've exhausted all the DNS and ADCS questions I've got access to in my prep tests and I'm answering those correctly. Guess it's just a case of sticking at it and trying to choose the answers that Microsoft have deemed correct for their cryptic style of questioning! :S
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    Like the comment above I got the question about Windows Mobile 6 devices on Friday and I was surprised by that. I found that they have similar questions with the same groups of answers on GPO's, CS and DNS. I failed the first time around as I wasnt 100% sure then a similar question would pop up 5 times in a row.

    I would recommend reviewing CS, DNS and GPO's. Understanding the FSMO roles will go a long way too as I had 3 questions on what were domain based/forest based etc. Mid 600's isnt far off so keep at it, next time around I got 815 after feeling the same way.

    Good Luck!
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    Thank you guys above for saying that as it's exactly what I thought- the tests are deliberately there to trip us up that's for sure- particularly the massive multi choice ones where the question is vague and a couple of the options are definately valid but there isn't enough info in the question to narrow them down further!
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    I failed this exam for the THIRD time today!

    And I was really confident that I have passed it, but when I clicked on "End Review", it told me I got 340/1000! WTF??

    Feels to me like either :

    1. Microsoft is forcing me to study for Server 2012
    2. Microsoft is forcing me to buy new books .... R2 variety
    3. VUE exam centre is making a killing out of me

    I really felt sure I passed this exam and have totally lost confidence in VUE exam centres.
    I guess you call this a Pearson Vue exam center but I assume you are registering through Prometric?
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    You may learn something!
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    Failed it again this morning! I got absolutely hammered with questions on CS and DNS replication, most of which aren't in the Microsoft Press book. I guess I need to rethink my study strategy because it's clearly not working. Maybe I need to spend more time playing with things in the labs and on Technet learning the syntax for commands, because that's what they seem to focus on in the exam.

    I am deeply frustrated with it right now!
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    I've been saying it all along - it seems this is one big money making scheme from the testing centers.

    Honestly don't know why Microsoft is hell-bent on asking these stupid PowerShell commands, as it's 2013 and we have moved from the command line to a GUI. FFS!!

    Almost like Microsoft is trying to remake Windows Server into a Linux type clone.

    Microsoft, if you're reading this - just stop with it. OK?
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    LOL, they are going back to the command line so you can automate servers like you can with linux. It's actually a good thing, it will speed up configuring mulitple servers if you take the time to learn powershell. BTW the exam centers make very little off the total exam cost - most of it goes to Microsoft/Cisco/VMware/whoever...
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