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    Default Failed 70-297

    I'm frustrated, sick and tired of this.

    Well, here's my story:
    First of all I'm an IT trainer (MCT) with poor experience on the servers field (I began on this at the begining of this year) and my first problem is that I lack of field experience. Ok, I'm not extending too much this background info so, that's it.

    I scheduled this exam for the first time on july 8th but because of technical problems at the prometric center, I rescheduled to july 10th. Again problems came even after 3 tries the same day. So I decided to reschedule on a different center on july 16th, sorpresively there were more technical problems and in this center apparently the guy in charge of prometric is not very experienced so it took him one week to give me a response, that in fact was a ticket to reschedule my exam again. This last time I rescheduled in another prometric center. But while I was waiting for a response from the last Prometric center, I began to study for the 70-284 exam so I left aside the 70-297. So when I got this last schedule I just studied for a couple hours (which I thought would be enough).

    I took the exam a few hours ago and got frustrated first of all by my score: 651, which means I was 3 answers from the pass. On the first place this study case exams are annoying by themselves and adding the fact that some questions are too open and empty at the same time. Damn, I was kind of sure that I could pass at lest with a 715 or so. It's very confusing some times because some answers contradict some situations of the information about the company but at the same time are correct.

    I guess I took it too lightly on the first place, after all this is my first fail. I Thought I knew the material and maybe I do but some questions and answers made me think a lot. These kind of exams are more like comprehension reading than design. Well I left nothing but to keep studying and retaking it next week.

    If you guys have any advice, it's welcome.
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    Don't let it get you down. This exam format throws everyone for a loop. Did you practice with Transcender or anything else that gave you some idea what to expect? I didn't spend a whole lot of time with it for 298, but I was glad to run through a few mock case studies to get a feel for the format. It would have been much more difficult walking into that without any practice. Consider picking up their practice exam if you haven't. You're extremely close; I'm sure you'll get it next time.
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    Thanks dynamik, I did use practice Exams and knew what to expect so I guess I felt too confident. You're kind of an example to follow (I don't know if it's the correct expresion) but you and several guys from here are really talented and I want to follow your steps on the IT field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krank
    Thanks dynamik, I did use practice Exams and knew what to expect so I guess I felt too confident. You're kind of an example to follow (I don't know if it's the correct expresion) but you and several guys from here are really talented and I want to follow your steps on the IT field.
    Krank,

    It can be frustrating seeing certain people like Dynamik progress so quickly, and it may even push you so hard that you don't prepare as well as you should have for a test. I feel this happened for me and I failed a test I shouldn't have because of it. Sometimes you see someone like Astorrs put up a test every week and a half and feel that is obtainable to anyone. It simply isn't. Just take solace in the fact that being among our peers @TE is making you progress much faster than you ever could alone. Now make a list of what you need to work on in the next week or so, go in confident, and walk out with your MCSE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cacharo
    Quote Originally Posted by Krank
    Thanks dynamik, I did use practice Exams and knew what to expect so I guess I felt too confident. You're kind of an example to follow (I don't know if it's the correct expresion) but you and several guys from here are really talented and I want to follow your steps on the IT field.
    Krank,

    It can be frustrating seeing certain people like Dynamik progress so quickly
    Stop frustrating people Dynamik!
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    He does make it easy to schedule a test with, being that he takes one every other week.
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    All I wanted to do was become an MCSE before July finishes. Obviously I can't by now and I'm not getting a raise. It just simply got out of my hands since Prometric started ******* me off. Now a couple ladies at the offices of Prometric know me because of the times I called complaining and rescheduling. At least I got a sort of "Prometric second shot" in exchange for the times I rescheduled and the time they made me lose.

    Well I'm still studying for the exam, I scheduled it for tuesday 29th. Hopefully I'll sit for the 70-284 the first week of august and finally becoming an MCSE. Next I'd be on the MCDBA road and then I'll be thinking about MCITP Enterprise Administrator... Yeah, I like to dream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krank
    Well I'm still studying for the exam, I scheduled it for tuesday 29th. Hopefully I'll sit for the 70-284 the first week of august and finally becoming an MCSE. Next I'd be on the MCDBA road and then I'll be thinking about MCITP Enterprise Administrator... Yeah, I like to dream.
    Nothing wrong with dreaming big, but you have to be prepared to fail. . . big, and a lot, before you succeed. The most important thing is to keep going, no matter what. I'm in the same boat, trying to accomplish a whole lot in a relatively short amount of time. MCSE, MCITP: Enterprise Administrator, CCNP. . . and that's just before I transfer and begin hitting school "for real", so to speak. Keep going, you're very close, and once you've got that MCSE, it's only the upgrade and the PRO exam to go. You can do it, and we'll all be looking forward to that "I PASSED!!!" post from you on the 29th.

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    I'm flattered some of you guys look up to me; it's nice to have someone or something to chase after. I'm glad I could be a target for some of you. There's a lot of guys here that I look up to, and they're a great source of motivation.

    However, you guys need to check your statistics. I'm averaging an exam about every 1.5 months. If you consider that I bought the Transcender MCSE pack over four years ago, my numbers are really abysmal

    What's the deal with the raise? You had to finish by the end of July?

    It sounds like you're just feeling a bit down from the Prometric hassle, your first fail, etc. Just stick with it. A lot of people fail, but they seem to make it eventually. Make sure you're not just rushing into the retake. If you're not ready, racking up another fail or two isn't going to help matters. Suffering a setback sucks, but there's no reason to let it continually affect you.
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    Well I'm getting the raise whenever I get the MCSE, no matter how long it takes, but the fact is that I do need the money. With this I'll be getting the raise by the end of August, (considering that I'd get the MCSE in early August).

    I don't think I'm in a rush, I think I can make it next tuesday. Actually, I thought I could make it yesterday, it's just that this month has been the worst so far. I'm kind of in a bad luck period. The important thing here is that I don't let it take down. I'm standing, facing forward to keep going my way through this all.

    Thanks for the support!
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    I'm also going to be taking 70-297 soon, case study hmmm? does this means you are given a long scenario then they start asking you a bunch of questions? I remember this back in College.

    Can someone please tell me what resource to use for practice exam? is Transcender enough? how do I pass this case study exams? do you need to write down the details of the case? I need a sample of this.
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    Sorry to post on your threat Krank, but I'm curious how many questions do I have and how long?
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    Don't worry jbaello, well first of all I finally passed the exam with a nice score, 945. So I'm heading to Exchange and hopefully, I'll sit for it next week.

    Now about the exam itself. Well, this exam has 6 testlets with variable number of questions (from 4 to 11 or 12). There are 40 questions, dispite the exam says there are 46, each introduction to the testlet is counted as a question. In the case study you can read the background of the enterprise, what they do, how they do it, who does it, and of course, the servers, services and infrastructure they have. Then you can read the problematic, interviews with CEO, CIO, users, etc. Next you can read what they want to implement or deploy, their rules, security and Active Directory and Network Infrastructure issues.

    The questions only ask the way you should do something like: "how many forests and domains should you use?", "where should you place the DNS server?", "how would you permit remote access?", etc. As all the Microsoft exams, there are tricky answers and you have to consider reading carefully because a word is enough to fail or pass (tell me about it).

    Oh I was forgeting, depending on the number of questions per testlet, the time is assigned to you. For example: you have 6 questions, with 20 minutes. As the time is testlet-based, if the time finishes, so the testlet does and you can't go back.
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    You slaughtered it! You were really out for blood on this attempt

    Congratulations and good luck with Exchange!
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    Congratulations on the pass! Glad to see you bounced back and recovered fighting. Just one more to go, right? Go for it! I'll be looking for that claiming your MCSE post.
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    The questions seems to be lacking alot of information, so I would assume this information that lacks will be based upon reading the "case study" can I re-read this case when I start the actual questions? anyway I can see the scenario or you can only read it once?

    Congrats man!!! very sweet, doesn't this make you a MCSE already? why not Exchange 2007? you would love 07 man, it is a very good and stable product except for OWA, but again I found some issue with my linksys router...
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    Thanks. Well next it's Exchange 2003 and that's if for the MCSE. Eventually I'll update the certifications I get but first of all, as I need money, I'm getting some Premiere Certifications.

    About your questions, jbaello, you can check the case study every time you want as long as the time for that testlet doesn't finishes. And yeah, the questions lack a LOT of information but the answers give an idea of what they want. In fact you could answer without even reading the questions LOL.

    Ok, I'll resume my Exchange studies. I hope this exam won't be too hard. Could anyone give me an advice or something I need to know for this exam (70-284)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dynamik
    You slaughtered it! You were really out for blood on this attempt

    Congratulations and good luck with Exchange!
    +1 DAYUUUM!!!! way to take your revenge!
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    I saw Silver Bullet old posts, he was asking if it's possible all in all to skip reading the case study and just focus on the questions is this possible?
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    On the 298 you could jump straight into the questions and then flip back and forth between the question and the actual case. I'm going to assume it is the same for the 297, no reason to assume otherwise. It is handy. I generally looked at the question first and then skimmed the case study for key words. Then I focused on those areas. Skimmed several times to make sure I didn't miss anything. Then I answered the question. Don't forget to read the answers first. Sometimes you can answer the question without even looking at the case because 3 out 4 answers don't even apply.
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    Yeah, it's totally the same than 70-298, you can go right to the questions and skip the case study. And I also agree with undomiel, if you read the questions first you can know if some answers are wrong without skimming the case study.
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    Does anyone know how much time is alotted for this exam? and how many case study and questions per case study they give you? IMHO I think if your going to do a case study it won't hurt to provide a hard copy of the case study itself, then surrender it back to the proctor instead of the digital window for the case study.


    I am looking to take the exam this coming Sunday, if everything goes as planned, my approach will be read the case stufy 1st take note of important details/requirements, then start the questions and go back when things is not clear. Please let me know if my approach will be doable.
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    The time for this is 150 minutes (if my memory doesn't fail). There are 6 case study with a variable number of questions as I posted before in this thread (I don't know if you readed it).

    About reading the whole case study I guess it's not very doable unless you read too quickly and have plenty read comprehension.
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    Does ctrl F works on the case study? I cannot see myself passing this without 1st analyzing the case study, I see blood...

    More likely I'll run out of time and probably finish 4/5 case study instead, wish can cause me failing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbaello
    Does ctrl F works on the case study? I cannot see myself passing this without 1st analyzing the case study, I see blood...

    More likely I'll run out of time and probably finish 4/5 case study instead, wish can cause me failing...
    I found reading the questions first and then skimming the case study details (you can always make notes on your scratch pad) for the answers worked well for me.
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