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    Default GSE written exam

    My employer was gracious enough to agree to pay for a GSE written voucher. Some of my contemporaries who have taken the written exam tell me that I'll be good as long as i go back through and thoroughly reindex my 503 and 504 books.

    Any thoughts or different preparation strategies for it?
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    Good luck and PLEASE document your journey. Several have started here and none have finished. This is my 2018 goal.
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    I'll do my best; the goal is written test by March and then Las Vegas in September.
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    Passed my theory earlier this year, think its 150 questions in 180 minutes so time its pretty short to go through 15+ books for answers. Just index appropriately, its easier than you think.
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    Good luck and PLEASE document your journey. Several have started here and none have finished. This is my 2018 goal.
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    I think i've got all the prereqs, i'd like to know what you are doing to prepare!
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    Reindexing my 503 and 504 books. I might go back through some of the labs or listen to the mp3s, but my main effort with be reindexing.
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    I wonder how difficult the pratical is versus the written portion... I haven't heard anyone chime in on what they actually did!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gwood113 View Post
    Reindexing my 503 and 504 books.
    Is this a new set of books after paying for a cert renewal? Or these your original books? Can't think of a good reason to re-index books you already indexed once before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechGromit View Post
    Is this a new set of books after paying for a cert renewal? Or these your original books? Can't think of a good reason to re-index books you already indexed once before.
    Only thing I can think is going through the process again will help refresh the material and recommit to memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoCal19 View Post
    Only thing I can think is going through the process again will help refresh the material and recommit to memory.
    That seems like a pretty good reason though.
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    Thanks for starting this thread, gwood!

    It looks like we're in similar boats: I just spoke to my STI adviser and it looks like I'll be taking the written in March as well. However, I won't be taking the hands-on until SANS Orlando (Spring 201.

    I'm going to start studying after Christmas. If it's OK, I can piggy-back off this thread and share study approaches and methodologies as appropriate.

    Good luck to both of us!
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    Been away a few days. To answer some questions:

    1. @TechGromit Reindexing the same books. Its roughly 12 books between the two (503/4) so i think it'll be important to make and consolidate a new combined index complete enough that I don't actually need the books. Also for a refresher.

    2. @Certbling From those who have taken both the written and lab (1 passed lab, 1 didn't) . The general concensus is that the written is easy and the lab will melt your brain. That's what i was able to discern from their non-descriptions since neither can task about their experiences.

    3. @Robicus feel free to pile on.
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    https://github.com/0sm0s1z/Xenocrates

    python script to make a SANS index. The author used it to pass his GSE last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by temuchin View Post
    https://github.com/0sm0s1z/Xenocrates

    python script to make a SANS index. The author used it to pass his GSE last year.
    Thanks for the resource, temuchin!

    Whelp-- it's official. My GSE application was accepted and I'm taking the written portion within the next couple of months.

    I wanted to share this delightful tidbit with you all: Historically, GSE candidates receive no practices exams. However, this must have changed recently. Shortly after being approved, I received an e-mail stating that I've been granted 1 GSEC, 1 GCIA, and 1 GCIH practice exam. Yes!

    I'm currently going back through all book and refining my indexes.
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    Awesome news! Good luck Robins! Definitely keep this thread updated or start your own. I'm looking at the GSE next year. Later this year I'll be working on knocking out the rest of the GIAC certs I need to pursue it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robicus View Post
    However, this must have changed recently. Shortly after being approved, I received an e-mail stating that I've been granted 1 GSEC, 1 GCIA, and 1 GCIH practice exam.
    My guess would be they are trying to make getting a GSE a little easier. so few people possess one, it's a fairly worthless certification in the job market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TechGromit View Post
    My guess would be they are trying to make getting a GSE a little easier. so few people possess one, it's a fairly worthless certification in the job market.
    You may very well be dead on the money with this-- it's been around for 10+ years and less than 200 people hold it. Heck, I hadn't heard of the GSE prior to starting the STI master's program a year and a half ago!

    However: I do have a few colleagues here at Microsoft who have it, and they may have a different opinion in its value. Another friend of mine (who already graduated STI) used his GSE to take a new job, earning more money.

    But, I do largely agree: but I'd question the merit of a InfoSec job if the hiring manager didn't know what the GSE is.
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    I'm scheduled to take my exam on the 24th of April. I too received a set of practice exams about a month ago. I took a new position in January of this year and haven't had any time to study. I still plan to prep by re-indexing the books from class. Wish me luck with getting all that done in the next three weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robicus View Post
    You may very well be dead on the money with this-- it's been around for 10+ years and less than 200 people hold it. Heck, I hadn't heard of the GSE prior to starting the STI master's program a year and a half ago!

    However: I do have a few colleagues here at Microsoft who have it, and they may have a different opinion in its value. Another friend of mine (who already graduated STI) used his GSE to take a new job, earning more money.
    We have one guy in Corporate Cyber security that has it as well.
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    So I pushed it back to the 1st of May (tomorrow). Didn't get any of the studying I planned on done. I'm rolling in there with my indexes and my books (or as many as I can carry) and crossing my fingers.

    I'll let you guys know how I do for better or worse. I'm mildly hopeful, but let's just say I haven't put money down for Vegas in September yet.
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    Definitely let me know how it goes. Good luck!
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    I passed. The last thing I did this morning was take the gsec and gcia practice tests. I ran out of time before I could get gcih done. Used my gcih and gcia books and indexes. Didn't have any printed materials from gsec.

    Vegas here I come.
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    Congrats on the pass!!!! Can you explain if prepping like you do for any other GIAC exam is what helps with GSE or do you have to use a different approach?
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