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    Quote Originally Posted by monkykap View Post
    I've taken PTS, PWD, MASPT. PWD had a lot more slides and labs and in general work put into the construction of the course and I really liked it. PTS is okay...it's a beginner course so I found it underwhelming as there are free alternatives. MASPT was definitely underwhelming and many reviews reflect that. I haven't taken PTP but from the reviews and the amount of content/labs it's easy to tell it's one of their best courses. I haven't seen any rave reviews about WAPTX, the ones i've seen all mention being "underwhelmed". A few folks who weren't high on WAPTX have been high on WAPT even though WAPTX should have more "interesting/advanced" material. My point is there was a lot more work put into construction of some courses compared to others despite the pricing being very similar. I have a "feeling" based on the demo module WSUS that PTX will be like WAPTX and "underwhelm" folks especially at the asking price. You can google most topics in any course so there should be a lot of slides/labs and videos to provide learning opportunity and it doesn't seem that is the case (they didn't advertise the number of slides/labs/videos for PTX but demo module was short and there are only 4 labs total). Generally their courses that have a lot of slides/labs/videos are have been very good, but when the don't they have been underwhelming. Each course tends to have different authors who construct the course their own way. Nothing is standardized including the exam. My two cents.
    if someone already take oscp, it is worth to take pwd and /or ptx ?
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    i figured just sign up....i was going to sign up for PTP Elite - which is usually $1300 USD, and with there promotion - both courses ended up being $1800 USD....so only $500 more.... so figured perfect time....i

    I will finish PTS, then do PTP and PTX and then OSCP. Only debate is if i should do CISSP before OSCP.
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    WSUS is the shortest module (bad choice for a demo), there are 110, 160 and 280 slide long modules too. I have started doing the Advanced Social Engineering part and I like it a lot. Really useful tips and information so far. For $899 it's great, but not worth $1899 IMHO.
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    Another way of looking at it is by A cost-benefit analysis. Do you see the benefit in your case of $900 dollars being well spent? Think about the home server you could buy or cloud time you could get. Also consider the time it would take to set all that up. $900 dollars could be worth it for some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asurania View Post
    i figured just sign up....i was going to sign up for PTP Elite - which is usually $1300 USD, and with there promotion - both courses ended up being $1800 USD....so only $500 more.... so figured perfect time....i

    I will finish PTS, then do PTP and PTX and then OSCP. Only debate is if i should do CISSP before OSCP.
    cissp and oscp is different track ... i do pts then oscp now confuse need to take ptx or not ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxxkaliboyxxx View Post
    Another way of looking at it is by A cost-benefit analysis. Do you see the benefit in your case of $900 dollars being well spent? Think about the home server you could buy or cloud time you could get. Also consider the time it would take to set all that up. $900 dollars could be worth it for some.
    that's good way to calculate but i still think whats the personal effect after take the course. like if you buy a car, then you can go to anywhere as long as you can drive... but if you dont buy a car, then maybe can use public transportation....
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    I just saw the video.. pretty cool stuff, that is really red team stuff
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    I'm just finishing PTP and when I saw the video I was sure to take it. The topics are great And you will be learning totally different things from OSCP. Bit then I realised there are only 4 labs. And I was already dissapointed by +- 20 labs in Ptp. After I checked demo I noticed that the WinUpdate module is in the same way like PTP - public resources GIT links with some explains. So I think that I will skip this, go straight to OSCP. Well known and rich lab.

    Extreme is very expensive certification with no recognition, very poor lab ( no matter how many machines < OSCP) with some topics that are not in OSCP but Google-able. Ibthink that elearnsecurity creates way too many expensive courses with questionable quality.
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    At first I thought this will be something like the OSCE@Offensive Security.
    After I checked the video and the sylabus it seems like there are only 4 labs and only Microsoft base products, no IoT, no embedded systems, no Linux.
    It's clearly a disappointment for me...
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    Yeah, I expected something like osce. Very challenging, proof of skills. I also do not like els's policy of not answering any questions regarding Offensive Security. I asked what are their intension regarding making the certifications more recognised. Also for comparison of OSCP, OSCE but no answer. I feel like they just make as many courses as possible to harvest money. With OffSec you need one cert for 1000usd and you are good to go. Ad . And no cloud security.
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    so definetly this PTX is really out of the game ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by beniisan View Post
    At first I thought this will be something like the OSCE@Offensive Security.
    After I checked the video and the sylabus it seems like there are only 4 labs and only Microsoft base products, no IoT, no embedded systems, no Linux.
    It's clearly a disappointment for me...
    have you take the exam ? just curious hows the exam model ... since this is very specific ( just 4 lab )
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    There are no details about the extreme exam her if I'm correct. Will be released later.
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    I think if you have limited budget, you should rather go to OSCP and get a recognition from an employer than spending more for extreme which is interesting I don't deny that, but everyone is asking for OSCP. No one gives a **** about PPT after few years being out. I guess non one will appreciate extreme at least few years. Extreme is like pricy side project, you will get some extra knowledge with some lab, but no one will appreciate that. I will take it maybe after osce, it's time to get hands dirty with OffSec. No paying for easy els.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepCZ View Post
    I think if you have limited budget, you should rather go to OSCP and get a recognition from an employer than spending more for extreme which is interesting I don't deny that, but everyone is asking for OSCP. No one gives a **** about PPT after few years being out. I guess non one will appreciate extreme at least few years. Extreme is like pricy side project, you will get some extra knowledge with some lab, but no one will appreciate that. I will take it maybe after osce, it's time to get hands dirty with OffSec. No paying for easy els.
    so if someone already take oscp then better take osce than take PTX?
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    After my experience with ppt, if you have balls to do OSCE, then yeah. That's my plan. PPT, OSCP, OSCE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepCZ View Post
    After my experience with ppt, if you have balls to do OSCE, then yeah. That's my plan. PPT, OSCP, OSCE.
    whats PPT ?
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    any recommendation for red team course/training another of specter?
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    I guess, OffSec is only really worth-of certification, then there is ELS. Which is not bad, I honestly love it and I would go for all of them just for sake of interest, but they are SO overpriced. If each course was for 800 USD for the most expensive variant, then it would be worth it. OffSec is known, therefore best, and actually cheaper. Of course there are more options from SANS etc. I guess, but those are getting extremely pricy and if we talk about self-funding then this is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beniisan View Post
    At first I thought this will be something like the OSCE@Offensive Security.
    After I checked the video and the sylabus it seems like there are only 4 labs and only Microsoft base products, no IoT, no embedded systems, no Linux.
    It's clearly a disappointment for me...
    This is only version 1, they might include those in newer version, just my guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chopsticks View Post
    This is only version 1, they might include those in newer version, just my guess.
    are we need to pay again if there is any newer version launch and we already pay for this version 1 ?
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    New lab sounds like major upgrade so yes, pay extra.
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    I got the 2.5 eMAPT update for free, which included new updated chapters and better lab exercises. Nevertheless, they will probably not include any Linux or IoT, because that's not part of the scope.

    By the way, I just finished Module 1 and it's amazing as is. 300 slides of pure awesomeness, including hands-on examples, tips for obfuscation, etc. Looking forward to the video and the lab.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ottucsak View Post
    I got the 2.5 eMAPT update for free, which included new updated chapters and better lab exercises. Nevertheless, they will probably not include any Linux or IoT, because that's not part of the scope.

    By the way, I just finished Module 1 and it's amazing as is. 300 slides of pure awesomeness, including hands-on examples, tips for obfuscation, etc. Looking forward to the video and the lab.
    i think they mention minor version is free major version is not free, which module 1 that you mean ? module 1 PTX or ?
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