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    if u want to become cyber crime investigator
    then there is a institute called asian school of cyber laws

    Asian School of Cyber Laws


    add some certification with above
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    it will help you to gain some technical side
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    You will become expert(top)after gaining a lot of experience
    certs are only addons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahil Arora View Post
    From the details of Google,it shows that Computer Crime Investigator is the Top Position among Security Professionals.
    And about Security Plus,Comptia Website says that Network + as well as 2 years Security Experience is Required,you can yourself check it!!
    CompTIA Security+ Certification
    Comptia can say what they like about that but we had a guy on the forum this week who is convinced he can nuke the test in couple of weeks with a book. He has little or no demonstrable security experience.
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    I think this confusion has come from the FBI now requiring its computer crime and forensic investigators to get both the A+ and Network+ certs. This is an effort to train its people in the technical side of what they are dealing with. CompTIA successfully lobbied to have its certs required by the DoD, and maybe they've accomplished the same with the FBI.

    I would say that tech knowledge at the A+ and N+ level is the absolute minimum a computer crime investigator should have, not the pinnacle needed by a truly superior investigator.
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    Ok,but what about my Query?
    Through search on Google,i found that Computer Crime Investigator is the top position in iNFORMATION Security field,is it right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahil Arora View Post
    Ok,but what about my Query?
    Through search on Google,i found that Computer Crime Investigator is the top position in iNFORMATION Security field,is it right?
    In India? It seems like you should only be concerned about what's the top Information Security position in India. Of that I have no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahil Arora View Post
    Ok,but what about my Query?
    Through search on Google,i found that Computer Crime Investigator is the top position in iNFORMATION Security field,is it right?
    Can you point us to your source that says Computer Crime Investigator is the top position in InfoSec?
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    Ok i accept that i was Wrong,it was mentioned that Computer Crime Investigation is the Top Position in IT.
    And that means there is no top Position in Information Security field??
    for example for networking we have it;Network Architect!and for Cisco:Cisco Architecture!
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    Okay, I see the pattern. What you are looking for is called 'Security Architect'.
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    That means this Position is Top Level among Security Professionals?
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    i love this thread.
    We're just doing our part to help shore-up someone's self-esteem by getting him started with a career in IT. <-- Couldn't say that and keep a straight face.
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    Sahil, I admire your great desire to become "Top Level among Security Professionals." More IT people should have this goal and the drive to get there. However, you can't climb Mt. Everest by first thinking about the top. There are many paths to the "Top Level," so you must start at the bottom with a few Sherpas to guide you. Ask the Sherpas here at TechExams how you should first start up the path to the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMurray View Post
    Sahil, I admire your great desire to become "Top Level among Security Professionals." More IT people should have this goal and the drive to get there. However, you can't climb Mt. Everest by first thinking about the top. There are many paths to the "Top Level," so you must start at the bottom with a few Sherpas to guide you. Ask the Sherpas here at TechExams how you should first start up the path to the top.
    Two things: JD is a very wise man and has way more patience that me.
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    Two things: JD is a very wise man and has way more patience that me.
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    Hey Buddies!
    I am From India,Sahil Currently Pursuin Graduation(BCA 2nd year) alongwith GNIIT in Hardware and Networking Domain.
    Please help me in my Career:
    1.I want to be on the top Position among Information Security Professionals.Please help me where to i start with,i searched a lot of Internet but didn't found anything Worth.
    2.I don't have even Comptia A+ Certification since i just got only training from GNIIT.
    Please give me Suggestions so that i can make my "Lovely Dream Become True"
    Also i do have Questions regarding Servers,please help me in that too.
    Please guys help me,i am really Confused
    Read this thread, it should get you going in the right direction. Especially highlight any posts from a guy called "keatron"

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    Thanks a Lot to All you Guys who really helped and Motivated me,"A Special Thanks to JdMurray" who helped me to get started,i just really want to know that if there is any Specific field/Position in Information Security which is called as top,i have given Network Architect as an Example for the masters in Networks,please tell me if it is there.
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    i just really want to know that if there is any Specific field/Position in Information Security which is called as top.
    There is no top. Only many mountains.
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    Means there is no any such Position??
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    Means there is no any such Position??
    There are many fields in Information Security, and each field has its top position. Top system security architect, top network security analyst, top Chief Security Officer, top digital forensics specialist, top risk manager, top penetration tester, and so forth. Pick your mountain, Sahil, and start climbing from the bottom.

    If you must single out one InfoSec field that is above the other fields, I would say choose risk management. It is the presence of risk that makes security necessary; no other InfoSec field can come into play until risk management and assessment has been performed. I'm guessing that in India, choosing risk management as your profession will most likely find you working for an insurance (assurance) company.
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    You mean to say that Risk management is top over all Security fields??
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    You mean to say that Risk management is top over all Security fields??
    In my opinion it is; others may disagree.
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    OK, I will try one more time. I refuse to give up.

    Let's take the medical field as an example. You can be the "top" surgeon, "top" gynecologist, "top" podiatrist, "top" pediatrician, etc. See the pattern? All of those "top" professionals are specialized in what they do. There is no "top" doctor. You just can't be a master of everything. You can't measure one "top" specialized doctor as being better or worse than another "top" specialized doctor.

    As docrice said, "There is no top. Only many mountains."

    As I said a few posts back, There is no universally recognizable "Top Security" position.

    You can be a Forensics expert, a Penetration expert, Auditing expert, InfoSec Director, you name it. Security positions cover different areas of responsibility. There is no definitive hierarchy that will establish one position as being above any other. Besides, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For me, the "top" security position may be pen testing. For others it may be Intrusion Analysis.

    Takeaway: There is NO "top" position in InfoSec. Choose what you like and try to be the best.
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    That's what the reply i want thanks a Ton for the Reply,now one Question left is that is there any Particular Information Technology degree/certification/course/Program which can have control above all others,i mean which can control others such as a Person who can go and ask anyone what are you doing this,why are you doing this and by whom permission you are doing this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahil Arora View Post
    That's what the reply i want thanks a Ton for the Reply,now one Question left is that is there any Particular Information Technology degree/certification/course/Program which can have control above all others,i mean which can control others such as a Person who can go and ask anyone what are you doing this,why are you doing this and by whom permission you are doing this?
    If there was such a thing today, it would change and not be on top tomorrow. Survival of the fittest is the way things are here in the Capitalistic Western world. Nothing can stay on top for very long (depending on what you consider "long" to be). The top one day is the middle-of-the-pack-and-falling the next.

    Getting a degree starts not at the top, but with how much money can you afford to borrow. Then you can decide where "the top" is for you.
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