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    #51
    i agree with you cyberguypr,but read post number 47,the Admin told me that Risk Management is the top Position among all Infosec Fields,what reply you want to give me now?
    And in your post i found this line:
    InfoSec Director, you name it.
    what do you mean by this line?
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    #52
    This thread is cracking me up. To me it seems like your looking for the highest paying job and want to get there in the quickest amount of time with the smallest of efforts. It just wont happen. Its a long path to travel.

    There is ample information in the forum to discover the different areas of infosec and what certifications and study paths to persue. Theres no point working a job you dont enjoy as you wont be motivated to excel at it.

    If your just starting out then study the Security+ materials, at that stage you should have a better idea of what areas you want to persue, take it one step at a time buddy your a long way from "top".
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    #53
    No actually hold on,i was waiting for Jd and cyberguypr to reply!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahil Arora View Post
    No actually hold on,i was waiting for Jd and cyberguypr to reply!
    I think you've got us all going on this one.

    Honestly, I would make sure you've read though

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    Security certification - where to start?

    before going further. Possibly your question of one supreme infosec leader can be answered in there.

    After that, any question of translation or meaning I'm sure would be answered happily.
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    Time to start a poll for Best Thread of 2011. Although we all know how that's gonna go.
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    From my experience, classifications, titles and positions vary from organization to organization. What an organization might consider a 'Security Architect' another one might consider a 'Network Security Architect' or a 'Sr. Security Analyst'.

    From the technical point of view, your "Top" position might be "Security Architect", "Network Security Architect", "Sr. Security Analyst" or "Sr. Security Systems Engineer", but again, the title is relative to the organization in question.

    From a managerial point of view, your "Top" position might the "Chief Security Officer (CSO)", "Chief Information Security Officer (CISO), "Information Security Officer (ISO)" or "Security Manager".

    Many other titles apply to "Top" positions in other areas, but I suggest you do a bit of research on the area that attracts you the most. Moreover, there are mountains to climb as others have already suggested, so expect to start as a 'Security Analyst' or 'Jr Security Analyst", maybe even as an 'Intern'.
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    #57
    I hope i won't get answer of post number 51,rest all you guys said is right,i Accept that,but still post number 51 is Unanswered by 2 Individuals!!
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    A Directory of Information Security, or Chief Security Officer, is someone who controls the policies, procedures, operations, and future direction of information security within the business and infrastructure of an organization. This position takes not only an understanding of InfoSec, but also of business, team building, project management, and corporate politics.

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    You guys help me with a Great way;
    First of all help me with easy going moods and then humiliate me with the words like this thread should be treated as best thread and New potental best-thread-of-2011 here: Commencing Virtualization Certifications
    Very nice,good way of helping me!!
    And also,Chief Information Officers/Directors jobs are co-related with Computer Forensics,i mean these Directors/Officers can do the legal work too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahil Arora View Post
    You guys help me with a Great way;
    First of all help me with easy going moods and then humiliate me with the words like this thread should be treated as best thread and New potental best-thread-of-2011 here: Commencing Virtualization Certifications
    Very nice,good way of helping me!!
    And also,Chief Information Officers/Directors jobs are co-related with Computer Forensics,i mean these Directors/Officers can do the legal work too?
    Sahil, I am hoping all that we are dealing with here in this thread is a language barrier. But on to your question about CIO(Chief Information Officer)/Director level jobs being co-related with Computer Forsensics and that these Directors/Officers doing the legal work too? It depends, if you are dealing with a small company (less than 100 employees in my experience) then yes this can happen. But for larger companies this is not usually the case. CIO/Director level jobs would usually not be doing this work. They might be reviewing the work, reports or just get updates about the status of the work being performed by Computer Forsensics Investigators. As it seems you are just finishing up with school or just graduated, you should be aware that CIO/Directors level jobs are Management level jobs and that Computer Forensic Investigators are Operational jobs. In other words Computer Forensic Investigators are where the grunt or low level work occurs. As you move up in Security field, you will realize at one point or another that you will have a choice to make. That choice being, Do you want go on the Management or Technical path for you career? The technical path being that you still get your "hands dirty" in handling security events, configuring devices and/or software and performing investigations. While the management path involves more managing people and projects, setting budgets, setting corporate policy and strategy and looking for ways to generate revenue (more so with corporations than with government). When thinking about the management path refer to Bill Gates as an example. But either way, learning to communicate effectively will be essential in either path you choose. So keep posting questions and responding to posts on this and many other forums on the Internet to improve this valuable skill. You may find at some point, poor communication skills will limit the options available for career growth more so than technical knowledge. I hope this helps you out as I am still working on being a more effective communicator myself. )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sahil Arora View Post
    You guys help me with a Great way;
    First of all help me with easy going moods and then humiliate me with the words like this thread should be treated as best thread and New potental best-thread-of-2011 here: Commencing Virtualization Certifications
    Very nice,good way of helping me!!
    And also,Chief Information Officers/Directors jobs are co-related with Computer Forensics,i mean these Directors/Officers can do the legal work too?
    The best way to crack it in security work is to get a job with a good firm where you will be assisting a very experienced security professional, and a good one at that. You will be that persons ***** for two years but will learn a great deal. A lot of people working in security are mediocre at best because the US rolls over and prints the money to keep the complex going and everyone has run off into it. It's just getting too bloated and too expensive. This has diluted the real quality that is out there in the field which is a shame because there is good deal of that and it is needed. The security bubble will blow itself apart from 2012 onwards and a lot of people doing mediocre or marginal work will be left nowhere employment wise. There will be layoffs because the cost is unsustainable. If you are serious about a security career, start thinking 5 years hence.

    If it's half as complex or as important as the security people blowing the trumpet like to think it is then there must be some quality people out there. Find them. Work for them. Learn from them.
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