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    I'll be following along. I start May 3rd and have never been more excited about starting some cert studies. Seriously. Never more excited.
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    Hey YFZBlu, do you know offhand if you get lifetime access to the course/materials for PWK? I read the site and it doesn't state anything about that.
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    You probably have lifetime access to the materials. I still have my materials (both PDFs and Videos) from when I did PWB.

    As blu had mentioned earlier though...your materials are watermarked with your student ID. So unless you plan to do some serious photoshop on every single page...don't think about redistributing if you want to keep your cert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NovaHax View Post
    You probably have lifetime access to the materials. I still have my materials (both PDFs and Videos) from when I did PWB.As blu had mentioned earlier though...your materials are watermarked with your student ID. So unless you plan to do some serious photoshop on every single page...don't think about redistributing if you want to keep your cert.
    Good to know you keep access to the materials. I wouldn't share my material. But there's just so much info I would want to go back and refresh myself as I don't do PT for a living. I find I lose technical skills rather easy if I don't use or think about them for a while.
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    Oh, and I'd hate to drop $1200 to learn and go through it once and that's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoJoCal19 View Post
    I don't do PT for a living.
    I didn't when I took this test either. I was a blue team guy (security analyst - vulnerability management and intrusion detection mostly). I got my first PT job 2 months after getting the OSCP title. This cert will help you get there if that's the direction you are trying to move.
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    This day marks 1/3 of my lab time, and I can confirm this has been extremely difficult time-wise. I have a bunch of automation projects going on at work that consume my time (and my thoughts even after work, if my code isn't working). Finding a decent amount of time to sit down and really focus has been rough.

    I actually think I may have had a mild panic attack last night. I couldn't sit still, my mind was racing, and I was unable to control those feelings. Obviously that can't continue, so I'm going to take it slow and steady, one thing at a time, and if I need to purchase an extension I will.

    On a lighter note, I have gotten deep into the recon portion of the coursework, and the 'poking' has begun. I hope to finish this portion today, and get started on the buffer overflow goodness - specifically, I've been looking forward to the buffer overflow module since I decided to purchase the course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YFZblu View Post
    I have a bunch of automation projects going on at work that consume my time (and my thoughts even after work, if my code isn't working). Finding a decent amount of time to sit down and really focus has been rough.
    Man, can't explain how much this has rung true for me also. Thats been the toughest for me as well, letting go of my work related thoughts after work. My 30 days will be completed by this Sunday, and I haven't even finished the manual yet (though I'll try to by this Sunday).

    Fortunately, I already bought more than 30 days lab time, so I am hoping to get more aggressive once I am done with the exercises, as it'll be more hands on from there on.
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    OK, so six days with no updates. I'm juggling about 15 things at the moment, and I'm feeling serious burnout for the first time in my career. I'm probably going to take today and tomorrow off, and I'll get back to it.
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    YFZblu, how's the OSCP studying/labbing coming along?
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    Just Read all post............................... Ahhhhh I am dam exited to take this in OCT 2014.. Please do send your experience YFZblu
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    All, I sincerely apologize for dropping off the face of the map - Besides the stress I documented in this thread, I ended up getting swamped with travel requirements and had large unplanned projects dumped on me at work. I have never flubbed on a certification track like this, so I'm a little embarrassed. I'm typically much more focused.

    Anyway, I'm in the process of finding a seam in my schedule to extend my lab time out. Again, I apologize to those who subscribed to this one. I'll keep you all posted.
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    Its a tough course man. Don't get discouraged. Its not about finishing the fastest...just finishing. You'll get there.
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    So last night I extended my lab time for 15 days and I'm feeling motivated. I'm going to spend today and tomorrow reviewing the beginning of the course to where I left off - After that I will start posting more updates on the content of the course.
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    I almost forgot to mention - it is possible to extend lab time after the initial lab time ends, which is what I did. It cost $150 to extend for another 15 days.
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    On the 19th I restarted all of my material - I'm going to need another day or two before I get back to where I was (buffer overflows). I have added the videos to my studying this time around, and it helps greatly. I didn't watch any videos previously.
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    I got a question about the OSCP. Do they really teach you everything from the basics? Or is it more a run this and this tool to achieve this and that?
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    From what I know, they only push you in the right direction. They explain some stuff but it is nowhere near "run this tool using these steps to achieve this result".

    Also, you are taught to not rely on tools. You learn to do things the real way - manually. This is why you are not allowed to use tools on the exam and the ones you are allowed to work with are very limited.

    I think they start from the basics but they don't hang on every detail. Things move fast. It is probably best to be familiar with some of the material before you start(for maximum results).

    And now it is time for someone who actually has experience to confirm/deny my assumptions
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    Quote Originally Posted by yzT View Post
    I got a question about the OSCP. Do they really teach you everything from the basics? Or is it more a run this and this tool to achieve this and that?
    The materials provide a framework for you to explore and learn about Pen Testing, from initial enumeration through to report writing. They give you some basic exercises to help you understand a topic, but you will need to do a lot of research on your own once you hit the labs. You will use windows GUI and CLI, Linux CLI, some bash/python/ruby/C, many different tools, and a lot of time with Google. There are some great reviews on this site and the web that will give you more details. Just be ready to commit a significant amount of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master Of Puppets View Post

    And now it is time for someone who actually has experience to confirm/deny my assumptions
    Couldn't have said it better myself. What Master o' Puppets said
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    Quote Originally Posted by yzT View Post
    I got a question about the OSCP. Do they really teach you everything from the basics? Or is it more a run this and this tool to achieve this and that?
    It sort of depends on what you believe 'the basics' are - If I wasn't already familiar with navigating/using Linux, scripting, and TCP/IP, it would be extremely difficult to digest the course material. Additionally one of the first things OffSec communicates to the Student is that LOTS of study time will be done outside of the official course materials. It strikes a really nice balance between providing the necessary information, while pushing the Student to 'try harder' and fend for themselves.

    But to be sure, a certain baseline (Linux, scripting, TCP/IP) should be in place in order to get maximum benefit.
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    Update - I'm just about caught up to where I left off before. I'm planning a legitimate 'update' post tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YFZblu View Post

    But to be sure, a certain baseline (Linux, scripting, TCP/IP) should be in place in order to get maximum benefit.
    I've seen this called out a lot on these forums and elsewhere. It would be awesome if someone were to do a quick list of the topics and level of knowledge with each that someone should have before going for OSCP. I have the eLearnSecurity Student v2 course and was wondering if that would be good enough of an intro. It's got a good networking section and a C++/Python section. As well I have pretty basic Linux knowledge.
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