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    Cool Passed Sec +... CEH/CASP/GIAC next?

    Hi everyone,

    Long time reader, first time poster. I passed the Security + yesterday at 767 of 750. Not bad for studying only 1.5 weeks. Its not a great score, but passing is passing!

    I used the Darril Gibson study book and took notes on literally every subject. I also bought his full online study package. I listened to the audio files while driving or working out and rinse and repeated every practice exam he had until I had 98% on each one.

    Professor Messer videos were great, but there were just way too many to watch.

    I've been doing helpdesk and desktop support for the past 2 years with my Comptia A+ and I hate it, so a career change was needed asap. I was wondering what are real world jobs I could be looking at now, and what certs I should get to further my IT career? I was thinking CEH or CASP or GIAC.

    I honestly have no idea what I want to do in the cyber security field. My guess is first get a cyber security job and see from there what interests me.

    I will appreciate any input. Thanks
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    congratulate for the pass and i wish for all
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    CEH > CISSP for most ROI, also more well known security certs to employers, however you will not learn a lot of hands on from these certs. Anything in GIAC is great however very expensive unless you can get your employer to pay for it.

    You can start at a SOC job to get hands on experience. Then find a field of cybersecurity you wish to pursue.
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    I'd disagree & say CISSP is better for the resume, but you need solid experience to get the actual cert. Certs are great for resume boosting, but it sounds like you may need to work on your hands-on knowledge some. I'll self-promote my past post here to help you actually start learning some technical skills, plus it'll help you figure out what tools you like to use so you know where to focus future study/cert efforts

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    Congrats on the pass, keep us posted on your next venture.
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    Congrats!!
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    CEH if youre looking for Guvvy jobs. I agree with the other poster on CISSP being best ROI. Do you qualify? You need time in industry and need a person with the cert to vouche.
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    Thank you everyone. I do not have the experience to get the CCSP or CISSP. I know someone with a CISSP who could sponsor me so I may become an Associate of ISC2 if I pass the exam.

    I just find it extremely hard to find a cyber security job without a Secret clearance around the DC area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sec2017 View Post
    Professor Messer videos were great, but there were just way too many to watch.
    Better get over that idea pretty quick as most of the actual valuable certifications will take a lot longer than 1.5 weeks worth of studying.

    If your employer will pay for it, go GIAC with the SANS training every time. You won't have the work experience to cover the self study requirement for CEH, and to be honest you probably need to build your foundation knowledge more...maybe try to get a network (CCNA) or an OS (MCSA:Server) certification. The idea is to minimize any backtracking when you get later in your career and if you don't have the OS / Networking knowledge, you will have to learn it and will be at a disadvantage on some concepts. Network+ might even be an ok option to round out your CompTIA trio.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sec2017
    Professor Messer videos were great, but there were just way too many to watch.Thank you everyone. I do not have the experience to get the CCSP or CISSP. I know someone with a CISSP who could sponsor me so I may become an Associate of ISC2 if I pass the exam.

    I just find it extremely hard to find a cyber security job without a Secret clearance around the DC area.
    You don't have to have a sponsor to become an Associate of ISC2, however given your experience level you wouldn't be anywhere close to ready in a reasonable amount of study time. That's not to say people can't pass before they hit the experience requirement, but you haven't even been in InfoSec so I would put it on the back burner until you are around 3-4 years of relevant experience.

    If you are in the DC area, look for jobs that say you can obtain a clearance because that means they will sponsor you. If you can get into one of those roles...regardless of if it is InfoSec, you will have more options. If you don't want to go that route, I would assume relocating out of DC to somewhere less reliant on the government contracts would be a better option.
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    Ditch the CASP!! I have rarely seen CASP as a requirement for any jobs. In all honesty if I had to start over again between CEH or GIAC, I would say GIAC if your employer is paying for it or if you have a lot of money saved up!! The quality of the material and GIAC is more widely known in the industry. That isn't to say that CEH isn't known either! If you are looking for a more cost effective route, I would say CEH provided you can get the 2 years of IT security experience. But do not do CASP whatever you do!!
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    GIAC (GSEC) or CISSP..
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    I'd say GSEC, unless you have the years to backup the CISSP its not really worth it early on, you can't use the title you'd just be an Associate of ISC or something to that effect. You should focus on CEH or GSEC (CEH is easier IMO)
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    I'm in the DC area also and I'm your exact same position. I just passed the sec plus exam yesterday. So, naturally I'm looking for the next cert to obtain. But, right now I'm focusing on getting off the service desk and finding a job that will give me some experience and hopefully a clearance.
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    I appreciate all the replies everyone! I realized it's pretty hard to find a jr cyber sec position in the DMV without having a bachelors or a secret clearance. :/

    I guess the best bet is to try to find a position that will eventually give clearance or go for the CEH. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdx View Post
    CEH > CISSP for most ROI, also more well known security certs to employers
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