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    Default Sec+ in 2 months...starting from...now!

    Hey all,

    My workplace has said I have to do the Sec+. So I am giving myself 2 months. In truth, since I studied back in 2015 for 90 days solid for the OSCP, i've lost every single ounce of motivation to pass exams. The OSCP was draining and sapped up the last bits of love I had for IT. That being said, I did get my PGCert (1/3 of a MSc degree) and other achievements after the OSCP such as my Linux+.

    But I digress. I've got 2 months to pass the Sec+. I'm on chapter 3 of the book and so far, it's very easy. Although i've looked up some sample questions and it looks like it's going to get tougher soon. It'll be nice to get another Comptia cert.

    I'm also hoping that this might be the exam that makes me love IT/security again. I will update this post as I go along and hopefully within 8 weeks, i'll have taken the exam.

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    Haha that is some great motivation right there! Thanks!
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    Uhmmmm... What? You've got your OSCP but your job is making you get your Sec+?! Must be a gov't job, right? I can't imagine this happening in the private sector.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoey View Post
    Uhmmmm... What? You've got your OSCP but your job is making you get your Sec+?! Must be a gov't job, right? I can't imagine this happening in the private sector.
    private sector - I didn't have to do it but I didn't do any certs this year (aside from some Lynda courses but they're not real certs). I kinda opted into it because on the surface, it looks pretty easy for someone who has been working insecurity for a number of years and has got the OSCP. That said - some of the material is VERY dry. The first chapter is boring and bland - about costs/spending...ugh!

    It'd be a nice start to 2018 to get this cert and will motivate me to keep studying (that's my plan anyway!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by si20 View Post
    private sector - I didn't have to do it but I didn't do any certs this year (aside from some Lynda courses but they're not real certs). I kinda opted into it because on the surface, it looks pretty easy for someone who has been working insecurity for a number of years and has got the OSCP. That said - some of the material is VERY dry. The first chapter is boring and bland - about costs/spending...ugh!

    It'd be a nice start to 2018 to get this cert and will motivate me to keep studying (that's my plan anyway!)
    Ok that makes a bit more sense. Yeah, the book is definitely dry; I'm sure even more so for someone already holding their OSCP. You probably can skim over most of the material and be good...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoey View Post
    Ok that makes a bit more sense. Yeah, the book is definitely dry; I'm sure even more so for someone already holding their OSCP. You probably can skim over most of the material and be good...
    I think you might be right!

    Here's a quick update for anyone who has bookmarked and is following the thread. Tonight I spent just 1 hour 15 mins reading and using the certmaster software that we were given and I worked on the network section and got the following stats:

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    36min
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    1hr 52min
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    So if i'm reading this right, I came to the section with 74% knowledge and completed it within 36 mins, whereas the average is 1 hr 52 and 62% average. I'm not trying to rush - it helped that out of the 31 questions, I got 27 of them right. The 4 I got wrong talked about WIPS - wireless intrusion prevention systems - which isn't even mentioned in the 104 book i've got

    Either way, I think i'm off to a good start. But if I do a course after this, I want it to be practical. I cannot cope with reading and having multiple choice answers. I want to do some programming or configuring!!
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    I was told there were no select all that apply? One right answer. Is this true?
    I also have the Transcender test exams. I have read multiple threads were some like them and some don’t? The instructor told me that all of the questions come right from the book. The Transcender questions have many questions that aren’t even in the book?
    Sorry to hijack your thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diskpak View Post
    I was told there were no select all that apply? One right answer. Is this true?
    I also have the Transcender test exams. I have read multiple threads were some like them and some don’t? The instructor told me that all of the questions come right from the book. The Transcender questions have many questions that aren’t even in the book?
    Sorry to hijack your thread.

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    Highly unlikely. The A+ and Net+ I took all had some questions with multiple answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by si20 View Post
    I think you might be right!
    So if i'm reading this right, I came to the section with 74% knowledge and completed it within 36 mins, whereas the average is 1 hr 52 and 62% average. I'm not trying to rush - it helped that out of the 31 questions, I got 27 of them right. The 4 I got wrong talked about WIPS - wireless intrusion prevention systems - which isn't even mentioned in the 104 book i've got

    Either way, I think i'm off to a good start. But if I do a course after this, I want it to be practical. I cannot cope with reading and having multiple choice answers. I want to do some programming or configuring!!
    I believe your correct; but I wouldn't take the average as a legit number (i.e. Not finishing, etc.). Honestly if I were you - I'd just buy a CISSP study guide and use it for both... I basically used the CISSP guide for the Sec+, SSCP, C|EH, C|HFI, and CISSP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N7Valiant View Post
    Highly unlikely. The A+ and Net+ I took all had some questions with multiple answers.
    Agreed. I remember multiple question types on my exam... I personally didn't find Transcender very useful. I think it's more about how you use practice exam questions. I suggest you take exam questions to identify weak areas, then you can better focus your studying. When your instructor says "all the questions come right from the book" they likely mean that the book has all of the material you need to study; not that the only questions your likely to see are actually the questions in the book. The actual questions in the book are just a guide...
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    si20, look up Professor Messer online, he has a monthly (around 15th of every month) Sec+ study group on YouTube (live feed) & his website (for chat purposes during live feed). He will cover only about 10 questions during that 1st hour, but the 2nd hour is basically asking him questions directly about the exam. His $10 Sec+ notes are spot on too, totally worth it. Another book you might purchase is the Daril Gibson book (I personally did not use, but from all the TE folks on here said it is the best one). Cheers & Hi5!
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    Why security +? I would suggest either CSA+ or CASP because you are just wasting your time studying for it when you already have your OSCP. You could walk in and pass the CSA+ just off of your OSCP knowledge, thats what I did
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    Quote Originally Posted by shochan View Post
    si20, look up Professor Messer online, he has a monthly (around 15th of every month) Sec+ study group on YouTube (live feed) & his website (for chat purposes during live feed). He will cover only about 10 questions during that 1st hour, but the 2nd hour is basically asking him questions directly about the exam. His $10 Sec+ notes are spot on too, totally worth it. Another book you might purchase is the Daril Gibson book (I personally did not use, but from all the TE folks on here said it is the best one). Cheers & Hi5!
    Thanks I'll check out the material!

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    Why security +? I would suggest either CSA+ or CASP because you are just wasting your time studying for it when you already have your OSCP. You could walk in and pass the CSA+ just off of your OSCP knowledge, thats what I did
    It's being paid for me - that's literally the only reason I'm doing it. Having spent a bit of time now looking at various questions - I'm not a fan of the Sec+. The questions are very....leading - as in, lead you to believe that x is the right answer, only to find out it's y.

    This will definitely be the last non-practical course/exam I take. I want to 'do', not just read

    Anyway, I'm ranting! I'll probably update by the weekend
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    Best of Luck! What book are you using if you don't mind? Just picked up SY0-501 Study Guide (Darril Gibson) Thanks!
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    Best of Luck! What book are you using if you don't mind? Just picked up SY0-501 Study Guide (Darril Gibson) Thanks!
    Using the 401 study guide by Darril Gibson and I've started looking at the Professor Messer youtube videos.
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    Ok so I've kinda dived in at chapter 5. A topic I find more interesting than the others. Wi-fi Security! I passed my OSWP (OffSec Wireless Professional) in 2014 and honestly - as I never became a pen-tester, I've not dabbled in wireless security since. So I went straight to the questions at the end of the chapter without reading the chapter to gage where I was up to.

    I got 14/20. The questions I got wrong were asking how many bits CCMP uses. Umm... I don't know. Not the kind of thing I'd normally remember! And I got another question wrong about a "site survey" - never heard of site survey attack/recon in my life. I think after I get around to reading the chapter and understanding CompTIA's logic, I should be able to hit a much higher score.

    So here is my gameplan:

    I should be ready to take the exam mid-late February, 2018. Admittedly, with it being December, i'm finding study time a little difficult. There are 12 chapters in the book. So I plan to spend 4 weeks on these 6 chapters:

    Chapter 1: Measuring and Weighing Risk
    Chapter 2: Monitoring and Diagnosing Networks
    Chapter 3: Understanding Devices and Infrastructure
    Chapter 4: Access Control, Authentication, and Authorisation
    Chapter 5: Protecting Wireless Networks
    Chapter 6: Securing The Cloud

    So by mid-January, I should have read the first 6 chapters of the book. Once that's done, I will spend the next 4 weeks on these chapters:

    Chapter 7: Host, Data and Application Security
    Chapter 8: Cryptography
    Chapter 9: Malware Vulnerabilities, and Threats
    Chapter 10: Social Engineering and Other Foes
    Chapter 11: Security Administration
    Chapter 12: Disaster Recovery and Incident Response

    So by mid-February, I should have read the entire book. That then gives me 2 weeks to prepare for the exam using cert master and the questions in the books.

    Continuing the gameplan: there are 90 questions to answer within 90 minutes. The weight for each chapter is as follows:

    1.0 Network Security 20%
    2.0 Compliance and Operational Security 18%
    3.0 Threats and Vulnerabilities 20%
    4.0 Application, Data and Host Security 15%
    5.0 Access Control and Identity Management 15%
    6.0 Cryptography 12%

    Total 100%

    Overall, I think I've got this. I imagine 77/90 questions (85%) would be a pass. CompTIA say a passing score of 750/900 is needed. So my aim is to get 80/90 on the final exam and I'll call that a successful start to 2018.

    Right. I'll update next week! Have a good week all.
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