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    Default Pen-Testing Paradise? ----> Run 100 VMs with Anstle?

    I came across this product called "Anstle" a while ago, forgot about it, but now seriously considering it.
    They claim to replace your webhosting with your own private cloud server that can run up to 100 VMs.

    I've been digging in and reading reviews, and so far everything seems very promising. I found
    myself discouraged from using my Dell PowerEdge servers in my utility closet for any meaningful
    web dev, IT training, or pen-testing as they are loud, hot, and take forever to boot up.

    The more I learn about Anstle, the more I want to bite the bullet and purchase. But hoping
    someone on here had heard of it or perhaps even owns one, and can comment on how they like it.

    I'm thinking this would be great for building a pen-testing lab, or cert lab for MCSE, etc. I find my
    existing lab too clunky and end up fixing some new issue vs actual time training.

    Anyway, would love to get thoughts and feedback if you've had a chance to review Anstle or own one alreayd.
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    Hey dragonsden,

    saw your thread here by pure change, happy to help. Not to deceive anyone: It is always a mix of VMs and Containers. antsle was optimized for Linux and containers so performance will always depend on what you run inside your antlets (VPS) of course. For lab environments, antsle really is a no-brainer. Happy to help answer any other questions you or anyone else has!
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    So despite the website going on about how amazing Antsle is, and the video showing it's VM-based, I still don't get how a box that size with no fans or vents (I guess the whole thing is a giant heatsink) can run 100 VMs simultaneously, and apparently better than an actual server. Am I missing something? The website seems very vague.
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    I want to give it a try but my hang up is possible performance. The specs seems poor for running VMs efficiently. 32 GB of RAM won't really run 100 VMs all that fast. Unless there is some other magic going on. Wish I could test run one remotely before dropping the dough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phalanx View Post
    So despite the website going on about how amazing Antsle is, and the video showing it's VM-based, I still don't get how a box that size with no fans or vents (I guess the whole thing is a giant heatsink) can run 100 VMs simultaneously, and apparently better than an actual server. Am I missing something? The website seems very vague.
    You may have missed something on the site: FAQ - antsle Docs
    The section titled: How many virtual servers can I run on antsle? Can it run 100 servers?

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    Just found this write-up. Kinda helped explain somethings to consider for those of us (myself), concerned with specs. Im still hesitant that if I buy now, that in a few months during black friday season, they'll release a 128 GB model with DDR4 and all kinds of upgrades. I usually don't buy tech in Q3/Q4 for this reason.

    Anyway, decent overview:
    https://rsts11.com/2017/03/29/first-...-cloud-server/

    I mainly need an easy to use dev server for web projects, so this meets that criteria. I like that its very portable and I can take my dev in my backpack and go work anywhere with it. Ill probably still have the 2U servers for ESXi stuff, since those servers are crazy cheap still. (I paid only $100 for a 32GB 1TB Poweredge, so I cant complain other than noise).
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    Compute is compute and how many instances you're able to run varies depending on what you're running. Looking at their FAQ, I find nothing to disaagree with but I can see where people might think the laws of physics don't apply. So they note you can run 100 instances on the box with 16 GB of RAM, using the example of 10 VMs and 90 containers.The minimum requirements for Server 2012 R2 are 512 MB of RAM so 10 of them is 5 GB, leaving 11 GB for the containers (and hypervisor). Containers can get pretty darned memory efficient given they share the same base OS and simply split out the processes unique to their function. If you want to work with containers, I hope you like Linux because that's all you have, no option for 2016 micro servers here.

    So can you run 100 individual server instances? Probably. Would it be a good pen-test test-bed, probably not.
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    I will probably pick one up just for dev projects / portability. If I really love it, maybe id get another down the road dedicated for pentesting. Not sure Id ever need to run 100 VMs at once anyway. But a decent lab may have 20+ depending on what you are trying to accomplish.
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