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    @stanly_cc thanks appreciate the response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STANLY_CC View Post
    Hello All:
    We are aware that there are changes coming from VMware to the VMware IT Academy Program. As of right now, there are no changes that will affect any student currently enrolled with us through the end of 2017. We are working with VMware to get documentation about the changes to you as as possible. As soon as we receive official notification we will post the info here and on our website.
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    Hi Stanly CC,

    Question: I' nearly done with fall ICM course that according to the curriculum is finished on 3 December. I am just wondering if I will be eligible for VCP6-DCV certification (I mean if my VCP6-DCV will be valid if I pass it), and if YES then what version I should take? VCP6-DCV or some VCP6-DCV PSE which I have no idea what is it?

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    I'd like to know what the difference is between the exams.

    This whole things annoys the s*** out of me to no end. It's like they are just going out of their way to make the whole thing more complicated and cost prohibitive for people who's workplace won't pay for the class.
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    There should be some leeway with those doing the course. I haven't heard from Karl Childs about it, but when they brought in the new pricing scheme back in April, they gave some leeway for those already in the process.

    However, until we have a definite answer (hopefully an announcement) we can only speculate, and we should just focus on completing the certificate and deal with it when it comes.
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    Just another update to people: This change will not impact now. It will be effective tentatively in the mid of January, 2018 and all the IT academies will be communicated about the change.

    Since, you have already enrolled for the ICM v6 course, you can go ahead and complete the course. This will be considered for VCP6-DCV certification. However, please make sure that you take the correct Exam. Any candidate who completes courses in IT academy must pass the PSE version of VCP6-DCV exam, Exam Code will be 2V0-621PSE.

    I found the exam 2V0-621PSE, i registered for mylearn.vmware and then went to Register exam , then View Exams, and then Private Access
    PSE Exams (Private Access Only) , i am going to finish my stanly course and take foundations and the below exam.


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    @majorpayne, thnks mate for this info.

    Guys, does anybody know what the difference between PSE verions and regular one, 2v0-620 and v0-620PSE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by majorpayne View Post
    Just another update to people: This change will not impact now. It will be effective tentatively in the mid of January, 2018 and all the IT academies will be communicated about the change.

    Since, you have already enrolled for the ICM v6 course, you can go ahead and complete the course. This will be considered for VCP6-DCV certification. However, please make sure that you take the correct Exam. Any candidate who completes courses in IT academy must pass the PSE version of VCP6-DCV exam, Exam Code will be 2V0-621PSE.
    @majorpayne, is this new rule applied (or will be applied) to a course or to an exam. What I'm trying to ask is, after I finish my course (last date 3 Dec 2017) should I take exam before mid Jan 2018 otherwise new rules will be applied to me OR as long as my course finishes before mid Jan 2018 then new rule is not applied to me and I will be able to take 2v0-620PSE after the new rule is issued?
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    The PSE is the same exam for special Students and partners. (There is probably some differences, but the correct exam is usually the non-PSE unless specified.
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    Hi Stanly,

    You mean that all courses started from next year January might be not certified as VMWare classes?!
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    The PSE is the same exam for special Students and partners. (There is probably some differences, but the correct exam is usually the non-PSE unless specified.
    G'Day mate. Do you know by chance how many questions on this version of exam and if questions are the same as on regular 2V0-621 exam?
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    As I stated, those of you currently enrolled in our class will be OK. When you pass you will be sent instructions on how to obtain & use your PSE voucher.

    Quote Originally Posted by sacredboy View Post
    Hi Stanly CC,

    Question: I' nearly done with fall ICM course that according to the curriculum is finished on 3 December. I am just wondering if I will be eligible for VCP6-DCV certification (I mean if my VCP6-DCV will be valid if I pass it), and if YES then what version I should take? VCP6-DCV or some VCP6-DCV PSE which I have no idea what is it?

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    From VMware:

    Important Announcement
    Certification Updates for 2018
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    VMware VCP-DCV Certification Information for IT Academy Students
    Attending Courses after 1 January 2018

    For candidates interested in becoming certified as a VCP6-DCV or VCP6.5-DCV, there are two options to choose from. Candidates must complete all steps from either Option A or Option B in order to receive their credential.

    Option A:
    Commercial Training Path (commercial courses appear in MyLearn / Certification Manager)

    Step 1) Complete a qualifying certification course either directly from VMware or from a VATC (VMware Authorized Training Center)*
    Step 2) Pass the vSphere 6.x Foundations commercial exam (2V0- -602 [v6.5] or 2V0-620 [v6.0])
    Step 3) Pass the VCP 6.x - Data Center Virtualization commercial exam (2V0-622 [v6.5] or 2V0-621[v6])

    *See full requirement details on our main VCP6-DCV / VCP6.5-DCV certification page. Be sure to select the path that best fits your qualifications.

    Option B:
    IT Academy Path (IT Academy courses do not appear in MyLearn / Certification Manager. IT Academy students use a special academic (‘PSE’) exam voucher for the VCP-DCV exam to provide qualifying training course credit. Students must complete the VCP6.x-DCVPSE exam using the voucher provided by the Academy instructor)

    Step 1) Take vSphere: Install, Configure, Manage and/or vSphere Optimize and Scale course at an IT Academy**
    Step 2) Pass the vSphere 6.x Foundations exam (2V0- -602 [v6.5] or 2V0-620 [v6]). Note: there is no special academic (‘PSE’) exam voucher for the vSphere 6.x Foundations exam.
    Step 3) Pass VCP 6.x - Data Center Virtualization PSE exam (2V0-622 PSE [v6.5] or 2V0-621 PSE [v6]) using the special academic exam voucher provided to the student by the IT Academy instructor

    **Academy course attendance will not appear in MyLearn / Cert Manager. The vSphere: ICM course alone does not qualify as fulfilling the training course requirement on the IT Academy path. Thus, the student must register for and pass the special academic PSE version exam (listed under “PSE Exams” section on the Pearson “Select Exam” registration page) in order to receive qualifying course credit required for VCP-DCV certification.
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    So that's no different at all to what it is today.

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    Hi scott28tt,

    If this information is not closed could you please explain what the difference between 2v0-621 and 2v0621PSE exams?
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    The answer is in the post from Stanly ^^^

    VMware and VATC students take the regular exam, VITA students take the PSE exam - that’s how VMware know that a VITA student has completed their training. Everything else about the exams is the same.
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    The answer is in the post from Stanly ^^^

    VMware and VATC students take the regular exam, VITA students take the PSE exam - that’s how VMware know that a VITA student has completed their training. Everything else about the exams is the same.
    I meant if number of questions or questions themselves are different or it its just the exam code that is different?
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    Scott has answered that. The PSE just tells VMware that you took this exam because you have completed training from a particular VITA provider and they can then use that to know to check your training completion to be able to award you the VCP (remember, you need to have the training verified to obtain the VCP at the end)

    I've done the Stanly course 3 years ago, they did a good job explaining the process to scheduling your exam at the end of the course, they will tell you which one to select, which by STANLY_CC's post, that would be the PSE.
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    Thanks for the information STANLY_CC, it's what I thought would happen. Any training after 1st of January 2018.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sacredboy View Post
    I meant if number of questions or questions themselves are different or it its just the exam code that is different?
    "Everything else about the exams is the same."
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    Thank you everyone for your input on this. Glad it's all been clarified.
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    On one of my VMware channels, we have had confirmation from Karl Childs regarding moving forward: It is different to what VMware Education has been saying, but he does mention the training academy who originally posted was incorrect.


    this is incorrect; there will be no changes to the training requirement. ICM will work just fine, although if someone happens to take the O&S class, it will also count. But two classes are not required, and the ICM still will count.


    I think it came from a posting by an Academy organization - I saw that post and it wasn’t quite accurate or worded correctly - the Academy Manager is working to update that notice with that school.


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    [edit] - Just read the link in the first post again. They have changed the wording to say that if you take either course, you must choose the PSE exam and use the voucher code from the academy to be able to obtain certification (Obviously once passed the exam)
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    I am thinking of taking the course , it will finish in march? should i give it a go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by STANLY_CC View Post
    Option B:
    IT Academy Path (IT Academy courses do not appear in MyLearn / Certification Manager. IT Academy students use a special academic (‘PSE’) exam voucher for the VCP-DCV exam to provide qualifying training course credit. Students must complete the VCP6.x-DCVPSE exam using the voucher provided by the Academy instructor)

    Step 1) Take vSphere: Install, Configure, Manage and/or vSphere Optimize and Scale course at an IT Academy**
    Step 2) Pass the vSphere 6.x Foundations exam (2V0- -602 [v6.5] or 2V0-620 [v6]). Note: there is no special academic (‘PSE’) exam voucher for the vSphere 6.x Foundations exam.
    Step 3) Pass VCP 6.x - Data Center Virtualization PSE exam (2V0-622 PSE [v6.5] or 2V0-621 PSE [v6]) using the special academic exam voucher provided to the student by the IT Academy instructor

    **Academy course attendance will not appear in MyLearn / Cert Manager. The vSphere: ICM course alone does not qualify as fulfilling the training course requirement on the IT Academy path. Thus, the student must register for and pass the special academic PSE version exam (listed under “PSE Exams” section on the Pearson “Select Exam” registration page) in order to receive qualifying course credit required for VCP-DCV certification.
    The vSphere 6x Foundation Exam: Is this one a kind of VCA-DCV? May I forget it and go direct for VCP-DCV cert?
    As VMWare pointed out for a newbie wanting to get the VCP, one have to obtain a VCA-DCV first (optional) and then VCP-DCV in the progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by junilinux View Post
    The vSphere 6x Foundation Exam: Is this one a kind of VCA-DCV? May I forget it and go direct for VCP-DCV cert?
    As VMWare pointed out for a newbie wanting to get the VCP, one have to obtain a VCA-DCV first (optional) and then VCP-DCV in the progress.
    No - vSphere Foundations is a "core" exam, for all 4 of the VCPs. There is a 6.0 version of the exam, and a 6.5 version:

    6.0 Foundations = https://mylearn.vmware.com/mgrReg/pl...79&ui=www_cert
    6.5 Foundations = https://mylearn.vmware.com/mgrReg/pl...64&ui=www_cert

    There has never been a need to be a VCA before working on a VCP.
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