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    I hear you on that, it really seems pointless for every student to have an expensive server dedicated to them. I wonder if VMware would mind if you used VMware Workstation to run a virtual vSphere environment for the course. A desktop with a quad core CPU, 16GB of RAM, and two hard drives can run an adequate vSphere environment, including a virtual SAN/NAS (e.g. running OpenFiler), and won't break the bank (easily under $2K each complete with monitor).

    The main problem with that is you can't currently run 64-bit VMs on a virtualized ESX host, so for example you couldn't lab VDR for the course, but I don't know if that is really a deal killer. Also I don't know if they have students teaming up to do labs for a reason, or if that is just done to save resources and they don't mind students doing labs solo.
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    I work for a VATC in the UK, and the hardware requirements laid down to us by VMware are very specific, I would assume that the requirements for Academy program members are the same or very similar. They exclude the use of running vSphere in VMs on VMware Workstation. Some courses also have their own specific hardware requirements, and rules around students sharing lab equipment.

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    yeah , I am waiting for Eric Chen next class. could not get in spring, may be ccc will have an introductory class first and then you should be able to take the VCP with Eric Chen.
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    subscribed. Interesting alternative path to VCP

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    ok, im confused. the list says these are "some" of the schools that participate, what about the others?... isnt there a way to type in a zip code to find out which is closest? i dont see anything in the Boston area....
    They must have added the list after you posted this question, but here are the participants:

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    still no way to filter by zip code tho.

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    UCSC early enrollment is $927
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    I just noticed that the Summer 2011 session for Eric Chen's CST C220 VMware vSphere course at Coastline Community College in Garden Grove, CA is open for enrollment starting May 16th (continuing students) and May 23rd (new and returning students).

    It's an 8-week course that meets on Monday nights starting June 13th. It's 3.0 units at $26/unit, so you aren't gonna find a more inexpensive, brick-and-mortar-with-lab VMware training deal anywhere. And quoted from the course page:

    Upon completion of this course, students can take the examination to become a VMware Certified Professional. This course may be taken four times. Graded or Pass/No Pass option.


    I probably won't make it in, as I am a "returning student" and must take the later registration date, but I'm gonna try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMurray View Post
    I just noticed that the Summer 2011 session for Eric Chen's CST C220 VMware vSphere course at Coastline Community College in Garden Grove, CA is open for enrollment starting May 16th (continuing students) and May 23rd (new and returning students).

    It's an 8-week course that meets on Monday nights starting June 13th. It's 3.0 units at $26/unit, so you aren't gonna find a more inexpensive, brick-and-mortar-with-lab VMware training deal anywhere. And quoted from the course page:

    Upon completion of this course, students can take the examination to become a VMware Certified Professional. This course may be taken four times. Graded or Pass/No Pass option.


    I probably won't make it in, as I am a "returning student" and must take the later registration date, but I'm gonna try.
    Wow, now that is cheap. Thats makes me wish that I was living in that area. Why cant one of the online classes be priced like that?
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    Why cant one of the online classes be priced like that?
    They may one day. Then thousands of VCPs flood the market. And then VCP becomes a requirement for helpdesk positions, like MCSE is now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMurray View Post
    I just noticed that the Summer 2011 session for Eric Chen's CST C220 VMware vSphere course at Coastline Community College in Garden Grove, CA is open for enrollment starting May 16th (continuing students) and May 23rd (new and returning students).

    It's an 8-week course that meets on Monday nights starting June 13th. It's 3.0 units at $26/unit, so you aren't gonna find a more inexpensive, brick-and-mortar-with-lab VMware training deal anywhere. And quoted from the course page:

    Upon completion of this course, students can take the examination to become a VMware Certified Professional. This course may be taken four times. Graded or Pass/No Pass option.


    I probably won't make it in, as I am a "returning student" and must take the later registration date, but I'm gonna try.
    So did you make it in?
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    My registration date is May 23rd. Because I'm a "returning" and not a "continuing" student, I was given a later date in the registration cycle.

    I did email the instructor;; he said that usually twice the number of students want to take the class than are able to enroll (max 30 students). Under those circumstances, I really don't expect to get in. I'll put my name on any waiting list to see if I can get in after the first-class-no-shows are dropped. It's worth a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMurray View Post
    My registration date is May 23rd. Because I'm a "returning" and not a "continuing" student, I was given a later date in the registration cycle.
    Oops, I asked a month too early.

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    I did email the instructor;; he said that usually twice the number of students want to take the class than are able to enroll (max 30 students).
    Wow, that is quite some demand.

    Quote Originally Posted by JDMurray View Post
    Under those circumstances, I really don't expect to get in. I'll put my name on any waiting list to see if I can get in after the first-class-no-shows are dropped. It's worth a shot.
    Good luck! Hopefully more community colleges will get on this. I know some CIS faculty at Mt. SAC but have had no luck getting them interested in joining VAP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMurray View Post
    My registration date is May 23rd. Because I'm a "returning" and not a "continuing" student, I was given a later date in the registration cycle.

    I did email the instructor;; he said that usually twice the number of students want to take the class than are able to enroll (max 30 students). Under those circumstances, I really don't expect to get in. I'll put my name on any waiting list to see if I can get in after the first-class-no-shows are dropped. It's worth a shot.
    The demand for that course is crazy. Last semester when I was enrolled, they had so many students that they ended creating a 2nd class to fill it . The 2nd class was full, too. As long as you show up on the first day and put your name on the list, he'll give you priority over those that come later. He's a very nice guy

    me and you will be fighting for a spot lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhan.ng View Post
    The demand for that course is crazy. Last semester when I was enrolled, they had so many students that they ended creating a 2nd class to fill it . The 2nd class was full, too. As long as you show up on the first day and put your name on the list, he'll give you priority over those that come later. He's a very nice guy

    me and you will be fighting for a spot lol
    Well, who would not pay less than $100 for something that usually cost ~$4,000.
    The hardware itself (even if you follow the minimum requirements ) will run you about $30,000.
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    Well, who would not pay less than $100 for something that usually cost ~$4,000.
    The class uses the official VMware VCP4 courseware, which students are required to buy from the college bookstore, so I don't know what I'll end up paying in total.
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    I know exactly how much a VATC has to pay for the courseware - it's not cheap...
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    Our school is part of vITA and VMware charges us zilch for using their courseware (and we still could not afford it) and they go out of their way to help with howtos, best practices and etc. We were about to start offering ICM course ourselfs, but the course was nixed because we did not budget the hardware cost during the previous year.
    Hopefully it will work our next year.

    What is amusing me is, I could not find a single school in NYC that would offer ICM as part of a curriculum or even offer it at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDMurray View Post
    The class uses the official VMware VCP4 courseware, which students are required to buy from the college bookstore, so I don't know what I'll end up paying in total.
    It should be about $50 for the student materials (that's how much I paid when I took the ICM course at another community college).
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    OK, I'm enrolled in CCC's vSphere class as student 27 of 30. It's an 8-week Summer class, so it's either gonna be fast-paced or modules will be skipped. If it turns out that I'm serious about trying VCP4, I'll take the class again in the Fall.
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    I'm pretty sure he'll make good use of every single minutes of it, and will possibly go overtime
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    It's three hours lecture plus one hour lab and ends at 10:15PM. I've been in a couple of Eric's Cisco classes with that same format. I'm gonna be getting into work late on Wednesday mornings for a while.
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    Hopefully I'll have enough energy to stay til the lab's hour
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    I am student 28/30 I can't believe I made it in I was getting worried waiting seeing the enrollment go up before I was allowed to enroll. $94 before books can't be beat vs the avg of $3495 I love 97% Off. I live down in San Diego but it will be well worth the hike for 2 months even if I need to stay at motel a night or two
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    Hopefully I'll have enough energy to stay til the lab's hour
    In Eric's Cisco classes the lab and lecture time was interleaved (I still have the PIX 501 I bought for his firewall class), and the class ends around 9:30-ish with the option to stay the full time. I hope they are running ESXi 4 on something more than a bunch of old Dell Optiplex desktops.
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    I was in his class last time but didn't finish. I dropped at half way due to changing work schedule. Before I dropped I heard he was having his servers being delivered. He spec'ed them out and it took a while for the school to approve it. If I remember correctly he said it'll have 60 or 70gig of RAM or something like that, EACH!!!! He had 3 or 4 machines running Openfiler that time, and some of the guys brought in their own machines as well.
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    Very nice! There's so many vSphere features that I don't use (vMotion, DRS, HA) that I need to get to know. And now Openfiler too.

    Now I need to find an inexpensive Linux-base NAS that I can load with ESXi and run Openfiler on as a VM. That would make a decent home media server.
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    loads openfiler on that server. I read alot of good reviews on it and it's pretty affordable
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