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    I know on my SQL exam I put I basically had 0 exposure to XML and my first 7 questions were XML related lol.

    It's probably a coincidence, but I am going to try the reverse strategy next I take a MS exam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by N2IT View Post
    I know on my SQL exam I put I basically had 0 exposure to XML and my first 7 questions were XML related lol.

    It's probably a coincidence, but I am going to try the reverse strategy next I take a MS exam.
    TS: Microsoft SQL Server 2008, Database Development:
    Working with XML Data (12 percent)
    55 questions * .12 = 6.6 questions

    This preparation guide is subject to change at any time without prior notice and at the sole discretion of Microsoft. Microsoft exams might include adaptive testing technology and simulation items. Microsoft does not identify the format in which exams are presented. Please use this preparation guide to prepare for the exam, regardless of its format
    Adaptive testing is not the same thing as an adaptive test. Adaptive testing includes question formats such as simultations, drag and drop, multiple answer, scenarios, etc. - basically anything besides pure single answer multiple choice. An adaptive test would change questions based on the correct/incorrect results of previous questions. You cannot go back and review questions in an adaptive test.

    The mark for review feature is there for your convenience. You could mark them all if you want. Answering the survey honestly can only improve the quality of the exam. When Microsoft reviews the reported candidate strengths vs the results of questions in the category, they can add/drop/change questions to make the exam better represent the required workplace skills.

    Instead of spending a few hours trying to figure out how to game the exam, you could have read a couple of chapters. Guess which activity would improve your chances of passing the exam?
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    Touche!!
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    It is frustrating to fail an exam, especially multiple times. But, if your current methods are not working, then another way is needed. I failed the 680 the first time by a few questions, because there were some questions that had 2 good answers. I got some material and did heavy labbing with an emphasis on the server side and passed the next time
    You just need to know how M$ wants it done. That involves reading their material, looking over exam objectives, and labbing.
    As far as the surveys go, if you could modify the exam by simply choosing various answers, M$ would shut that down ASAP.
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    I passed the 70-680 test on Wednesday, after failing it two weeks ago.

    Whoever is saying the FUD about not marking for review because of the adaptive nature of the test, yadda -- it's nonsense. I recognized many of the same questions that appeared on both tests, and I marked different ones for review.

    I used the Sybex book and Skillport training. The Sybex book is fairly light, has errors, but was 75% of what I needed. Skillport helped a great deal, but didn't improve much, conceptually from the Sybex -- despite going into far more detail about the workings of Windows 7.

    Frustratingly, I found a lot of the question had to do with things that were hard to simulate, such as creating particular LGPO through AD DS. Yes, it definitely helps to have dabbled in Windows Server and Active Directories before.

    I passed the second time because Microsoft's technet helped answer questions I couldn't figure out.

    Some questions seemed frankly unfair. There was a question about running a program to figure out unverified drivers. ALL the material I have used have me memorizing using Sigverif.exe as the program to use from the cmd line, however it was not an option.

    Definitely know your cmd line questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dandoz View Post
    The Sybex book is fairly light, has errors, but was 75% of what I needed. Skillport helped a great deal, but didn't improve much, conceptually from the Sybex -- despite going into far more detail about the workings of Windows 7.

    I'm starting to be pretty disappointed with Sybex materials
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    Default Rolling the Dice on tests

    My last experiences with an MS test was a nightmare. I had to take the test twice. The 1st time I was menu-ed, trick-worded, trick-phrased the entire test. I spent more time deciphering the question then actually answering it with my know how.

    The 2nd time the questions were completely specific on diagnosing, configuring, and networking. I passed it easy. And I only looked over my notes the 2nd time because I couldnt learn anymore than I did.

    So its a toss up on how your tests comes. I wouldnt be surprised if the 1st time you take a test it is tougher than the 2nd time on purpose to earn a few extra $$$s for prometric.

    I tried transcenders and I thought their testing methods were so off the mark and simply frustrating that I dont use them anymore. I took dozens of tests from them and all I got was frustration at their complexity and trickery of questions.

    In college I studied how to give proper testing to students are part of my education degree and these companies are off the mark. The focus so much of a student's brain power on reading the question correctly, building up frustration, that they dont allow you to use your full capacity to answer the question. Shouldnt be like that.

    You shouldnt ask questions like...
    "where do you go to change virtual memory?" Like in transcenders
    A. start/control panel/system/advanced system settings/settings/advanced/
    B. start/control panel/system/system settings/settings/advanced/
    A. start/control panel/system/system settings/settings/performance/
    D. start/control panel/system/advanced system settings/performance settings/advanced/

    That's a poorly setup question that only dooms test takers to failure and questions their confidence. Unless you sleep, eat, and drink MS products you would know the answer off the top of your head and be really confident.... and if you do eat/sleep/drink MS products you need a life instead of working 12 hours days.

    So sorry about your test failure.

    Best thing I can tell you about taking these kind of tests is to get their pad and take your time. Make a drawing, picture, notes of the actually question so you can better visualize it. Then start off by removing the answers you know are not right. Then work on deciphering the rest of the answers. Everyone is different so other procedures might work better for you.

    Im sure I will get slammed for this, but never forget most companies are out there to suck as much money from you while giving you the least service. They will optimize their product to get away with the most before too many complaints come in. Testing is the same thing. If they can blindly make 90% of their 1st test time takers fail while paying $1000 per test without anyone questioning their practices they will do it. That's an inflated silly example of course, but Ive been around enough to see the B.S. out there. I know what fair test taking is, I designed tests that were fair, and seen tests that were unfair. These companies design tests to ensure X% of people fail so they make more money per test without setting off alarms. The $125 you pay for a prometric test with the "2nd chance" is a mathematically calculated formula to maximize profit vs the % of people who fail the 1st time. Because you can get test vouchers for 2/3 the price.

    So just practice and study, dont get frustrated and try what I told you for test taking. Probably your failure is due to test frustration which will affect how well you answer.

    tada!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claymoore View Post
    TS: Microsoft SQL Server 2008, Database Development:
    Working with XML Data (12 percent)
    55 questions * .12 = 6.6 questions

    It still remains bizarre to me that the first 7 questions would be related to the only topic I marked I have very little knowledge of. And the fact it only made up 12% of the exam makes it even a little more bizarre.

    What that tells me is they are going to test you on your weakest areas which is good for the exam itself, bad if someone is lacking in a certain area.
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